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« on: April 19, 2012, 10:51:32 PM »

Im picking up and intake and a bigger carb this weekend, i do believe a 2 barrel?? i will be getting a set of slightly used 23hp heads built by ryker. after that do i only need a cam and billet rods and billet flywheel or what else do i need??? in the most affordable way. i would like to build up the motor from its weakest link that way i can still race during this season. and could someone explain to me on how to advance the timing??? any help is greatly appreciated as to im new to this
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2012, 07:29:47 AM »

Get new flywheel 1st, get new rods 2nd, get new cam 3rd.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2012, 12:58:25 PM »

If you use the ARC flywheel you can easily advance the timing by adjusting the setting on the hub. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2012, 02:14:34 PM »

wouldn't run it with the stock flywheel,it is not good for the rpm the heads can make it go too,the flywheel will explode and someone could be hurt or deadI
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2012, 03:55:21 PM »

Both US and ARMA require a Billett Flywheel for this year on ungoverned classes. If you want to partipicate with either of these organizations, you need the flywheel.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2012, 04:46:42 PM »

I think you guys missed his question..
He has carb intake and heads..
He is Getting a cam, rods and Flywheel...

What other parts does he need to build his vanny?

Rockers? Valves? Springs? Pushrods? Lifters? etc....And which one of these should he get first?
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2012, 08:34:04 PM »

thanks rooster yes i know i need the flywheel first i just dont know where i should go from there? rods first then everything else?
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2012, 08:51:40 PM »

you will definately want to change to stronger valve springs and retainers (unless the heads you get from Ryker have valves and springs already installed.  If he built them then he knows which rockers live and which die an untimely death!... lol)  If the heads are fully built I would say to address the air filter set up.  Stock vanny's have a pancake style filter setup.  Your gonna want more air than the stock setup provides.  Ive used a few different air filter setups  on my vanguard but ec and pvt have the best for this engine in my opinion.  Also you may look at doing the long rod/flat piston combo while your doing the rods.  The smaller vanny vtwins have some cubic inches to make up for when compared to the inteks or kohlers, but built right you will have NO problem making up for that difference.  (no matter how many people tell you there is no replacement for displacement!).. Also you are running a vanguard which means you are running an engine that loves the higher rpms more than the lower grunt so gear accordingly!  Lastly I would say make sure to throw out the aluminum pushrods and use either two exhaust (steel) push rods or get some chrome moly pushrods.  If you are new to this as you said then this will be PLENTY of power to get you where you wanna go... fast!!!!  
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2012, 09:47:51 PM »

i already have a different filter on it i made my self im almost positive the heads have the springs and stuff in them already not sure though(i dont have them in my possession yet). i have a spare 14p and i was going to take out the steel rod when i changed out the heads, thanks for the info guys
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2012, 01:52:57 AM »

If Ryan did the heads they are probably "O" ringed and you will need to use copper head gaskets
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