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Title: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 20, 2009, 06:37:15 PM
Well I have begun to build me a NEW Super Modifed. Its gonna be a slow build. It is legal for ARMA in 09 one of thier new classes. IT will be legal for the WOO candian club. I plan on going up their at least once a year. I mounted the rear axle and an adjustable wedge I want to to try to use. Not sure If I can or will but its there for now. This will be an unconventional build, as per ARMA sanctioned class build in 3 ways. It will be 2" off the ground, 42" inches wide and have an offset of 4" meaning center of frame to left outside sidwall 19" and right side 23". It will have a vertical motor, 700 trans, standard type clutch and for now I will use mowers tires on the rear and Kart grooved on the front. Below are pics of the start.

as you can see the axle and wheels on to double check hieght

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_PC280068.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=PC280068.jpg)

Here are the new wheels. I am not 100% liking the hub. Reckon I will get with Carroll about making some beefier ones.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_PC280069.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=PC280069.jpg)

This is a look from the rear. 1.85" ride hieght. Not much but its a start.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_PC280071.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=PC280071.jpg)


Front axle beam is on finally
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00002.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00002.jpg)

Rear view of the seat in and rear fender support
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00003.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00003.jpg)

Side view of the seat in place just sitting there
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00004.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00004.jpg)

Rear fenders widened 4"
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00005.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00005.jpg)

Here is a closer look of the fenders.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00006.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00006.jpg)

Side look at fenders still have alot to do to get them done
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00007.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00007.jpg)
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: mtd#7 on March 20, 2009, 08:57:20 PM
wow that things is low and it is alot like a racein go-kart and man it will be fast!!!! cool biuld :woo:
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: ktownmadness on March 20, 2009, 09:25:53 PM
George, what is a transmatic?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: eLUP on March 20, 2009, 09:41:59 PM
thats probably the frames original factory sticker, cuz that frame probably came with a hydrostatic type tranny that he swapped out...
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: racedude48 on March 20, 2009, 10:27:39 PM
looking good george! ive been lurkin around on the boards for a few days now, and im definitley a fan of what you and everyone else on this board have accomplished!!!! Rock on! :rocknana: Have you concidered doing a suspended mower? i dont know if youve ever seen a quarter midget but the suspension would transfer over very niceley, axle and all.(http://home.jtan.com/~joe/race_cars/schlauch_4.jpg)
(http://home.jtan.com/~joe/race_cars/schlauch_9.jpg)
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 21, 2009, 03:55:28 AM
George, what is a transmatic?

MTD Varidrive
I have seen quarter midgets very nice rides. We are not alloweed suspension on ours so that has never been a thought.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: fordman21 on March 21, 2009, 09:59:14 AM
Looks pretty sweet so far George.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: cycloneracer on March 24, 2009, 11:22:05 PM
George,
Looks good, like the wedge idea!  But concerned with the bolt for making the adjustment.  I don't think that bolt will take the abuse. 
Heres an idea.  Make a cam for the wedge to hold the wedge in place and make a positive locking handle.   Like a shifter type.  Move the handle that goes into a slot and can't come out unless you unload the wedge and pull the handle over.

I assume you are planning on adjusting it on the fly is why you are using a bolt.

Just a thought!

Later
Paul

Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 25, 2009, 04:30:18 AM
George,
Looks good, like the wedge idea!  But concerned with the bolt for making the adjustment.  I don't think that bolt will take the abuse. 
Heres an idea.  Make a cam for the wedge to hold the wedge in place and make a positive locking handle.   Like a shifter type.  Move the handle that goes into a slot and can't come out unless you unload the wedge and pull the handle over.

I assume you are planning on adjusting it on the fly is why you are using a bolt.

Just a thought!

Later
Paul



No worries I scratched the idea of using it on this chassis My size required a seat so wide I don't have room for it. I am going to applyi it to another chassis I am planning. The leaft rear has the least pressure. It worked on a dirt kart well with the bolt. I know there is a difference in weight and trak types but I think it will work. Just no on this chassis.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Ironmike on March 26, 2009, 06:35:40 PM
Am i missing something? I have read this over and over and dont see anything about a bolt contraption? what are yall talking about?

IronMike
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 26, 2009, 06:38:09 PM
Am i missing something? I have read this over and over and dont see anything about a bolt contraption? what are yall talking about?

IronMike

Very first picture arm extending in front of rear tire, with holes in it the bolt on the end of it.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Rusty Moosbrugger on March 26, 2009, 07:16:51 PM
It  is looking good need some more pics I know you been working on it lol.
Have to tell you George you do do a great job building them.
You know I am so impressed with your build after racing it with you, that
I am building one from your build form. I hope it handles half as good as
yours did. Course I won't have a Indian under the hood, wouldn't mind it
but won't fit the budget. Hope things are good at home take care.
more pics though and advice
Thanks
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 26, 2009, 07:51:22 PM
Thanks Rusty...It was a pleasure having you drive it and racing with you. You ain't half bad. I promise if you follow my build it will drive well. And tech advice is free. So if ya get stick just holler. Remember a GOOD chassis will make any motor look good.

As for my build I have got the seat cut into the fenders now and will get pics tomorrow. Havn't been working as hard as I should been under the weather a bit.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: badboysracing on March 26, 2009, 08:51:39 PM
thats a good idea. it should be a great mower.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: rebelchild16 on March 26, 2009, 09:47:17 PM
We're on our way up this weekend with a couple goodies. Then he can get back to grind stone with it. Good luck George.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 27, 2009, 06:39:22 PM
Well I have the fenders cut for the seat. It isn't high quality work, but I ain't no metal worker.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00019.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00019.jpg)

A view from the rear you can see the section I added in 4" wider than stock now.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00020.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00020.jpg)

Here is the right side gonna be lots of work making it look like it was done that way But its coming along. Have to cut bend form and weld then smooth it all in an effort to blend all the pieces into one.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00021.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00021.jpg)

Well as you can see the motor is backwards. Front end is on and steering is working. Got to get the column up and over the motor now.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00022.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00022.jpg)

The next two pictures shows how the axle and steering is setup. Yes I like front steer plus the exhaust is gonna wrap around the rear of the motor.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00023.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00023.jpg)


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00024.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00024.jpg)

Here is what will be facing me. Will be different thats for sure....Still a long way to go.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00026.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00026.jpg)
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: badboysracing on March 27, 2009, 07:30:24 PM
looking good. I dont see you having a problem with getting this done bfroe Oshkosh unless you have major prblems with alot of other stuff before then.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on March 27, 2009, 07:31:03 PM
that gonna be an awesome ride George! might have to build one of these next winter!!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 27, 2009, 07:57:18 PM
I have realized I will not have room for a mechanical belt clutch. SO I have a EC billet clutch and can't use it and need a Star centrifugal clutch. SO now I gotta come up with the funds for a centrifugal clutch. Still planning on using a 700. Least wise thats the game plan for now.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Rooster on March 27, 2009, 08:21:03 PM
Looking good George, just one question..
How many of those chasis you got laying around, with all the mowers we have we ony managed 1 of those and it was missing the grill!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 27, 2009, 08:26:21 PM
2 or 3 I believe
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: PAPPY on March 27, 2009, 09:49:16 PM
George, I run a Star clutch to a 400 peerless on my F/X and NEVER had any problems. I like it if we race a smaller track, I just change gears. Most the others are changing their rear gears on the axle. (PAIN IN THE BUTT)
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on March 27, 2009, 10:08:07 PM
split sprockets!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Ty on March 27, 2009, 10:59:45 PM
I have realized I will not have room for a mechanical belt clutch. SO I have a EC billet clutch and can't use it and need a Star centrifugal clutch. SO now I gotta come up with the funds for a centrifugal clutch. Still planning on using a 700. Least wise thats the game plan for now.
How much room do you have between crankshaft and 700 input shaft? Only reason I ask is, You know I run a relatively small chassis which I utilize RAGB with a mechanical clutch. If you could switch to a RAGB,then you can down size on your front pulley which should allow you enough room to run your mechanical clutch.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 28, 2009, 04:00:41 AM
How much room do you have between crankshaft and 700 input shaft? Only reason I ask is, You know I run a relatively small chassis which I utilize RAGB with a mechanical clutch. If you could switch to a RAGB,then you can down size on your front pulley which should allow you enough room to run your mechanical clutch.

Ty a RAGB would do the trick BUT I don't have one either I have two actually but even between the two I don't have enough for one good one.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: lowgalaxie on March 28, 2009, 07:23:45 AM
Well, looks like we will be finding out if a 700 will hold up to a clutch with a twin. I know the canadians do it but everyone here has always said it would NOT hold up. Good, finally a moment of truth. Thanks George.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Ty on March 28, 2009, 08:20:47 AM
Ty a RAGB would do the trick BUT I don't have one either I have two actually but even between the two I don't have enough for one good one.
Let see what I can come up with for ya.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: badboysracing on March 28, 2009, 07:56:41 PM
a 700 with what type of clutch. we run a foot clutch and dont have to many problems as long as you have the steel gears in the tranny.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Ty on March 28, 2009, 08:35:27 PM
George,
 PM sent !!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: rebelchild16 on March 28, 2009, 09:00:59 PM
Well made it to Georges today, dropped off goodies took a look at Pro-twin and man what a machine. Makes me want to start mine. I'm just stock pileing right now.  It look better in person then pic's wish everyone could have seen it. Now we can see what he pulls out of his sleeve next time he works on it.
Good going super George!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 29, 2009, 07:18:36 AM
Thanks Larry yall wore my ole but out thats what ya did.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Old Goat on March 30, 2009, 10:07:33 AM
George, I seen how short your arms are and how big yer belly is!  :omg:  HOW are you gonna reach the steering wheel???  :confused: :lol:
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 30, 2009, 10:52:26 AM
 :D  You just let me worry bout that  >:D
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: berthyd on March 30, 2009, 06:02:01 PM
G used to use a "necker's knob" on his machine, but dang if he didn't hit a rut and lost the thing in his navel :woo:

Bert
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Rooster on March 30, 2009, 08:23:59 PM
 :lol2:
He said navel!

Too much chicken grease on his fingers I bet!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Snowman18 on March 30, 2009, 08:37:04 PM
That is just to funny, dang near fell of my chair laughing, sorry George.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 30, 2009, 08:57:13 PM
Its ok Scott I just consider the source!!! LOl
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: ktownmadness on March 30, 2009, 11:08:07 PM
I got your back George. Fat boys unite.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 31, 2009, 04:17:42 AM
Thanks Jerry, I will do my talking on the track..... Thats where fat boys SHINE.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: berthyd on March 31, 2009, 06:58:45 PM
As a founding member of Fat Boyz Racing (along with George), we may be the only 2 racers who truly understand the principle of "road-hugging weight".  :badgrin:

And Scott, just so you know, you have been nominated for incarceration, er, I mean inclusion into Fat Boyz Racing. The initiation process includes, among other things,  supplying George and me with several dozen jelly-filled doughnuts in Oshkosh, WI before the ARMA points race. You will also be required to find George some fresh "grits", a rarity in northeastern Wisconsin.

Bert
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 31, 2009, 07:05:22 PM
If he succeeds in his mission of dohnuts and grits, he's a member for life.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Snowman18 on April 02, 2009, 07:41:44 PM
Consider it done, remember I eat grits and like'em.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: mully915 on April 02, 2009, 07:54:49 PM
I eat grits and like'em.
:puke:   nasty
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Ty on April 02, 2009, 08:05:26 PM
:puke:   nasty
Sorry, I have to agree.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: lowgalaxie on April 02, 2009, 08:11:06 PM
There are so many diff. ways to cook and eat grits and man are they Gggrrrreeeeeaaat!!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: nor66 on April 02, 2009, 09:22:59 PM
You guys are crazy!
A good ole bowl of Hot creamy GRITS with  butter, salt and pepper.

Thats a meal by itself!

Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Rooster on April 02, 2009, 09:26:17 PM
I would say something, but I'm sure you know how I feel about grits...
I once flew over the coop for a single grit!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: ktownmadness on April 02, 2009, 09:30:23 PM
I like cheesy grits.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 02, 2009, 10:38:23 PM
You guys are crazy!
A good ole bowl of Hot creamy GRITS with  butter, salt and pepper.

Thats a meal by itself!



Don't foregt the eggs....over easy of course
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Rooster on April 02, 2009, 10:49:56 PM

Don't foregt the eggs....over easy of course
Lol I missed that,thanks George!
Thats right, support the American Agriculture industry and keep my ladies employed!
Eat eggs!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: lowgalaxie on April 02, 2009, 10:52:41 PM
Man when don't you quit or only when your battery is dead. Can't wait to here your jokes in person. You sure keep the laughter going.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Rooster on April 02, 2009, 10:54:42 PM
 :hijacked:

Lol, I think we need to give George his thread back.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: lowgalaxie on April 02, 2009, 10:57:17 PM
Yea, this place needs a live chat. Sorry Superman
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 02, 2009, 10:58:32 PM
I'll clean it up later.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: mowinmachine on April 03, 2009, 12:22:34 PM
My Grandmother used to make Cheesy grits with bacon in it. Boy was that good! Here's the thing though: I've been away from the South for so long, that whenever I come and visit and eat lots of fried food, it really tears my innards up really good.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: shrekB32m on April 04, 2009, 10:26:52 AM
george are you puting the dash back on it   and did it have a tunnel 
i like the wheels
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 04, 2009, 12:09:06 PM
no and no
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: leadslead on April 12, 2009, 08:50:03 AM
nice rig what is that fram off of looks like a lawn chief
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 12, 2009, 08:58:33 AM
MTD Early 90 walk thru chassis.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: leadslead on April 12, 2009, 09:01:01 AM
n ice build u reinforce it with 1 square tubeing  ?? is 1by 3 to much
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 12, 2009, 09:03:26 AM
I could not say since I have only used 3/4 or 1" as in this build. In my opinion thats all ya need.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Old Goat on April 27, 2009, 03:39:44 PM
Hey, Mr. "Smart Guy"!!!  Are you gettin any better, yet?  I sure am missing seeing how you're coming along on this new super mod. :(  :D
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Dawg on April 27, 2009, 04:50:36 PM
Great build George
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 27, 2009, 05:01:31 PM
Getting there. I will start back on it soon. I want to have it ready for the NC raCES
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: pjhusske on April 28, 2009, 07:02:20 AM
Hope you have it ready for them.....  Keep up the good work guy
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Dawg on April 29, 2009, 07:15:23 PM
THAT THING IS GONNA BE BAD!!!!!!!! >:D
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on May 03, 2009, 01:46:04 PM
Well Me and Jake did a bit more. I been building in my head the whole time its been sitting and I ain't been doing nothing. So this didn't take very long at all to do. I already did it several times in my head. Anyhow the steering is done 1/4 turn full lock both ways and very smooth and easy to turn. Below are some pictures of the steering.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00034.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00034.jpg)


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00035.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00035.jpg)


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00036.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00036.jpg)


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00037.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00037.jpg)


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00039.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00039.jpg)

Here is what it will look like. The hood is just sit over it still have to do some trimming to get it the way I want.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00041.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00041.jpg)
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: LittleMow on May 03, 2009, 01:57:50 PM
Wow that dude is LOOOOOWW!! One rock bigger then a bottle cap and you'll be singin the blues! :drool:
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Mike Gentry on May 03, 2009, 01:58:26 PM
At a Baby  ........................ i'm jealous  :lol: ........... Keep up the good work man  8)
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Wise_Guy_racing on May 03, 2009, 03:42:23 PM
Looks really nice, hopefully one day I can build a mower like that
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on September 07, 2009, 05:51:47 PM
Here is the latest progress. Added a 3rd rear axle bearingsince I did not have rooom on the left side due to the size of the seat to accomodate my REAR end. We basically cut a pheonix kart up using the rear bars and rear bumper. Was gonna use a gear box that Ty from up north sent me but they were too tall. LArry came thru with a peerless But its aleft hand SO i am gonna make  a shaft. But we are at least making progress. Finally.


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00230.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00230.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00231.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00231.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00232.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00232.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00233.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00233.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00229.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00229.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00228.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00228.jpg)
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Kutt_N_Dgrass81 on September 07, 2009, 08:10:44 PM
That sure is looking awesome George.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Cromwell C4 on September 08, 2009, 09:25:36 AM
Good to see you added that third cassette. I'm glad I added it to mine, made the whole rear axle setup much more stable. Now hurry up and the that thing finished so i'll actually have somebody to race 8)
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on September 26, 2009, 05:39:42 PM
OK We got somemore done to the Super today. Thanks Larry ole pal for stopping by and helping out some. Gotta give the deck credit to Larry. He is pretty slick when he wants to be. As you can see we got the decks mounted and used the chute so it looks real. I wanted it to look like a mower to some extent. Also the support for the ride side of axle has been added.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00235.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00235.jpg)

As you can see I used all the space available between the tires this is full lock and still have a lil room. This will eliminate wheels inside of wheels while racing and offers more room for the feet.


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00237.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00237.jpg)

Here is a view of the left side on we fittied both sides and blended them to the running boards/chassis.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00238.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00238.jpg)

An view standing back of both sides on

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00239.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00239.jpg)

View of right rear

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00240.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00240.jpg)

rear view of left side

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00241.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00241.jpg)

Hear is underneath so far. I ran a brace from side to side and nothed it for pulley clearance then filled it in with a flat piece it will also serve as a belt guide

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00242.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00242.jpg)

Better view of right side and chute the natural chute gives the heel a good rest on the deck.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00234.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00234.jpg)
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 03, 2009, 11:30:48 AM
First time out of the barn with everything in place except the power plant.From gear box to the rear bumper I am happy with and done except for some finsih welding and body work.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00245.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00245.jpg)

The lense is in the shop but it looks mean just sitting there. I love the stance. Used up bout all the kart stuff. Still need some side bars but in due time.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00246.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00246.jpg)

Chain gaurd came out real good. First Used some thin card board to make my templates. Then transferred to the aluminum. I welded mount tabs behind it and will get some button head bolts for it later.Its all done bolted in place.

More of the Kart parts back here cut the bumper and narrowed it a bit so it wasn't off center. Then put a small bar at bottom to close it up.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00247.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00247.jpg)

The next few pictures me and Jake tried in on for size. Its not a one size fits all. Well this one might be for the most part cause it has such a large seat to accomodate our wide beehind.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00248.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00248.jpg)


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00249.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00249.jpg)


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00250.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00250.jpg)


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00251.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00251.jpg)


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00252.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00252.jpg)


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00253.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00253.jpg)
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: mower_mulisha on October 03, 2009, 02:41:56 PM
 :woo:  Simply Awesome!!  :woo: Looks wicked fast just sitting there with no motor!! Very nice work yet again G!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: badboysracing on October 03, 2009, 07:58:32 PM
Hey George. Great Job on that mower. Maybe this next summer we will see you back up here in Wisconsin so that we can see how wicked fast t is even if you dont race it.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Old Goat on October 05, 2009, 07:41:02 AM
Lookin good, George! :thumbsup:  Dang, I didn't know they made kart seats that BIG!!! :lmfao:  I like the way the chute for the mower deck makes a place to hook your heel into. I don't suppose your gonna have it ready for the finals next weekend?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Caseracer on October 05, 2009, 09:39:28 AM
Lookin Sweet George!  Are you gonna have to hang a ballast weight on the rear to get a bite like Ryan or is your built into the design.   :P

Jack Jones
Hard Case Racing
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 05, 2009, 10:52:09 AM
Hey George. Great Job on that mower. Maybe this next summer we will see you back up here in Wisconsin so that we can see how wicked fast t is even if you dont race it.

It will go where ever I go next year. My game plan is to allow some to take a ride to promote the class. I figure with the seat I got in it most can fit it for a couple laps...
Lookin good, George! :thumbsup:  Dang, I didn't know they made kart seats that BIG!!! :lmfao:  I like the way the chute for the mower deck makes a place to hook your heel into. I don't suppose your gonna have it ready for the finals next weekend?

HAHA...I didn't know they had em that big either. It was a special order that had to order extra plastic to fill the new mold they built just for me.... It won't be ready for finals. However after this past weekend all I like is master cylinders (2) add motor and wiring and build an exhaust. Don't have a centrifugal clutch yet... Funds are depleted. I am planning a regular manual clutch to get it going. So in essence all I really have to buy at this point are the Master cylinders and clutch.
Lookin Sweet George!  Are you gonna have to hang a ballast weight on the rear to get a bite like Ryan or is your built into the design.   :P

Jack Jones
Hard Case Racing

Jack I wear my additional weight. Traction is not something I generally have an issue with. I do not have the race tires for it initially it will use the turf pros. I do have a set of hoosier slicks I may try IF i have it running by the All American. I plan too have it ready one way or another.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: scottytow55 on October 12, 2009, 12:14:08 PM
 Thats sick.. I like it...
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Hitch on October 12, 2009, 01:22:18 PM
Amen on Georges traction control. :rofl:
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: GTX21 on October 16, 2009, 05:51:31 AM
George, what size tires and wheels are you running in the back? Are they 8 x 8?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 16, 2009, 06:10:51 AM
16x7.5x8 turf pros on 8x8 wheels. I also have a set of 15x7x8 hoosier race slicks on 8x8 wheels for it for those smooth tacky clay tracks.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 18, 2009, 06:47:12 PM
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00265.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00265.jpg)
Did some more work. Added a dash thought it would look good. I think it does.. Plus gives me a better spot to mount some things.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00268.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00268.jpg)
Used a hub with a quick release one we sell at work. Makes it easier to get out by removing the wheel and laying it on the dash.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00264.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00264.jpg)
Here ia another view of the steering wheel and dash in place.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00266.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00266.jpg)
Well me and jake built the exhaust today. We ran up to the shop (EC) and we learned how to use the tubing bender together.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00267.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00267.jpg)
Here is a bit closer look at the headers as the come off the heads.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00269.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00269.jpg)
As ya know the motor is in backwards so the exhaust comes out the left side of chassis then forward to the front and around the motor.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00270.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00270.jpg)
here is a view from the front. Nothing left except a collector. Not to shabby least ways me and jake like it.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00271.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00271.jpg)
Here is the shot down between the legs. Fuel tank is mount there, air filter tucks in there nicely, although I somehow missed my measurement when putting the cross bar in which has the tank mounted to it. I had to raise the engine 3/4 inch for the filter to fit in right. BUT it made making the exhaust bends off the header a bit easier. Anyhow nothing left but clutch (manual) not centrifugal, wiring it up, collector on exhaust,mounting master cylinder and pedals run brake line, and fuel lines. Hope to race it this weekend for the first time.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on October 18, 2009, 06:58:01 PM
anxious to check this thing out at the all american!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 18, 2009, 07:07:32 PM
Hail I am anxious to get it finished never took this long to build a mower ever. Been 8 months in the making. BUT this is a way different build than anything I have done in the past. May be a piece of junk but it sure looks good so far.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: murph1411 on October 18, 2009, 07:20:30 PM
George i find it hard to belive that any tractor you build could ever be refered to as "a peice of junk". It looks great and bet its bad fast.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 25, 2009, 12:03:31 AM
Well we rode it today put prolly 30 laps on it Jake got to ride first. And I went second. Shaft from ragb moved a bit worked on that!! Ratio was good but belt was slipping. Went and bought a 4" the 3.5 wasn't gonna get it on the motor. So we re did that. Had an exhaust leak and found a flange hole had broke out so have to change heads in the morning. Even with the belt slipping though keeping the front on the ground off the corners was a job. And this was on grass. But for a first day it was good even with all the lil  issue's. But was a good first test.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Mike Gentry on October 25, 2009, 08:17:49 AM
Well we rode it today put prolly 30 laps on it Jake got to ride first. And I went second. Shaft from ragb moved a bit worked on that!! Ratio was good but belt was slipping. Went and bought a 4" the 3.5 wasn't gonna get it on the motor. So we re did that. Had an exhaust leak and found a flange hole had broke out so have to change heads in the morning. Even with the belt slipping though keeping the front on the ground off the corners was a job. And this was on grass. But for a first day it was good even with all the lil  issue's. But was a good first test.

What did jake think about it  :omg:  I bet he had a BIG smile on his face and had dreams about it last night  :lol: I'm glad ya got it finished ...... can't wait ta see it at the "AAMC"  :3gears:
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 25, 2009, 12:21:58 PM
She isn't finished. Been working on it since 6am motor is off and exhaust is done that is something that requires total disasembly to remove now. Motor has to sit down on it. But the things we do for fun.

Jake is in love he likes how it gets sideways. He would make a hail of a sprint car driver he loves the sideways stuff. Says he likes slick tracks it an advantage for him... LOL
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Mike Gentry on October 25, 2009, 12:24:40 PM

Jake is in love he likes how it gets sideways. He would make a hail of a sprint car driver he loves the sideways stuff. Says he likes slick tracks it an advantage for him... LOL

Yeah buddy ..............  :lol: That's the fun time's for sure !!!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on October 25, 2009, 04:22:45 PM
George i was checking out this build and had a question on the rear axle, is the third axle bearing you mentioned mounted between the brake disc and sprocket??
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 25, 2009, 06:30:07 PM
Yes it is Tim. If you need a closer picture let me know. Itsis finished now except nerf bars and little stuff. We put several laps on her today no belt slipping now. We ran a tank and half of fuel thru it with no issues well rolled a belt finally but we got it very hot yesterday with it slipping. But all in all no issues at all. Went to take some pictures but batteries were dead.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on October 25, 2009, 06:31:06 PM
thanks, looking forward to seeing it next week in TN,
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Rooster on October 25, 2009, 07:54:04 PM
thanks, looking forward to seeing it next week in TN,
Heyyyyy, don't rush me, we got 2 weeks!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Lawnmower man on October 27, 2009, 09:40:25 PM
How did you flair your fenders like that
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Rooster on October 27, 2009, 10:01:26 PM
How did you flair your fenders like that
I don't think he did, that style of fender was made like that.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 27, 2009, 10:04:14 PM
Yup not flared.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 28, 2009, 09:36:43 PM
Ok new pictures since our test runs last weekend. Here is the business end what the driver see's.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00272.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00272.jpg)

Here is another view of it

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00273.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00273.jpg)

Here is the dash I made and what it looks like with everything in place

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00275.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00275.jpg)

Thanks to Carroll/EC for the nerf bars. Had some left over from chassis he had built years ago and said get me some. SO I installed this one tonight. Will Get the other one tomorrow night mounted on.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00276.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00276.jpg)

Here is the hood with a few stickers on it. Still have to have the EC Stickers for the sides of it made. Thanks Larry and Jeannie for the new Design.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00279.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00279.jpg)

The front end looking down on it. Mounted the number plate on the bumper and now has the lense in it. I think it looks really good. But thats just me.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00281.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00281.jpg)

The next two pictures shows the exhaust and how/where it exits the body. Thought it would create a foot/heat issue but doesn't.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00282.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00282.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00285.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00285.jpg)

Here is the view from right front side of the extension/jack shaft of the ragb. Solid 3/4 shaft which was actually a 3/4 axle out of a transaxle. We cut it down and added another keyway

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00283.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00283.jpg)

Here is the belt setup you cannot see the engine pully. I will get a better picture in the day light. But due to lack of room I used a sinlge pulley clutch. I had a EC clutch plate that one side was stripped so I whacked it off and made this clutch. It is also operated by a cable not a linkage rod. No room for a rod.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00287.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00287.jpg)

Here is the spring going otu towards the rear. Showing how I put tension on it.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00289.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00289.jpg)

Here the back side of the chassis as you can see it shows the rod with nuts so I can adjust belt tension easily.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/th_DVC00290.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/GeorgeHerrin/?action=view&current=DVC00290.jpg)
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on October 28, 2009, 09:49:01 PM
sweet George, you just running a single pulley clutch setup? seem to be working good? are them 4 and 8 pulleys?? man i cant wait to get started on mine,
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 29, 2009, 04:16:15 AM
Yes single pulley clutch. Its working so far. Belt tension is more critical with a single pulley. Been many a year since I tried this setup. I was so limited on space is why I tried it. Plus I didn't want it to pull the belt off the engine pulley. Its a TSC 4" and I am using a 7 which came on the ragb. Its a true 1/2 belt pully belt is flush with outer edge. The engine pulley rolls out at 3.4" even though its sold as a 4 but being an A/B pulley and a 1/2 inch belt it sits deeper.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Lawnmower man on October 31, 2009, 09:11:09 AM
what kind off fenders were they
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 31, 2009, 09:52:47 AM
Stock MTD fenders, Well not stock I have widened them. BUt they come on the smaller older walk thru chassis. Which is what this mower started life as.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Kutt_N_Dgrass81 on October 31, 2009, 06:14:05 PM



Here are a couple of pics showing these type fenders on stock mowers.

         (http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll155/KaddyKidd81/08-22-09_1745.jpg)

       
         (http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll155/KaddyKidd81/06-05-09_1715.jpg)



 By the way, George, your mower is looking really good!!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 01, 2009, 07:19:50 PM
here is a video of a few laps we made today doing some more testing. Hope it works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtpoDjydG8g
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: DoNoHo on November 01, 2009, 07:23:11 PM
Super good show George
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: nic_hayes on November 01, 2009, 07:35:47 PM
All I can say is,  :wow: :rockon:
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Mike Gentry on November 01, 2009, 08:18:53 PM
Gonna be a good show  :D ........... Look's like ya got er handling pretty good  8)
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 01, 2009, 08:23:55 PM
I promise you it handles. And it only gets better.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 02, 2009, 09:13:47 PM
Here is a bit more video. I am learning this stuff slowly.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuXrM5mYHJU
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Seth Brunson on November 03, 2009, 12:18:18 AM
WOW Looks great man!!!!! Sounds awesome......Very nice build.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Jeremy_Conley on November 03, 2009, 10:37:23 AM
WOW!!! thats gotta be my next build. thats just awesome
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Tony Loveless on November 07, 2009, 08:19:42 PM
Sounds good George!  Definately not hurting for power lol.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 09, 2009, 02:37:00 AM
Well the maiden race was good and bad. I have no video but it did not like the hi9gh spped of a real track carb issues and a broke stock rocker arm at 8500 rpms Friday in practice (MISSED THE GEARING JUST A TAD) But worked on it got er going again, better run well drives like a dream. OEM carbs are coming off tillys are going on and that should wake this thing up.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Lawnmower man on November 09, 2009, 08:01:20 PM
thanks for the info and why didn't you run Sunday george
 

and George im building a super modifed to an i need some help
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 09, 2009, 09:00:14 PM
With 154 mowers as a race promoter I had no time to race. I had to ensure the event ran as smoothly as possible
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Rooster on November 10, 2009, 09:14:20 AM
With 154 mowers as a race promoter I had no time to race. I had to ensure the event ran as smoothly as possible

And you did a right fine job of that!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 10, 2009, 11:48:35 AM
Thanks Rooster that means alot!!!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on November 10, 2009, 06:51:07 PM
yup George things went pretty smoothly sunday considering the amount of racers.... i do have a few questions on the super mod chassis, i will be using a step through chassis, my questions, the last 6 or so inches of the chassis in the rear is unboltable, can we remove this and fabricate averything rearward, where the rear axle mounts and seat mounts?? the wheelbase has to remain stock?? and if we use a horizontal shaft engine, where does it need to be posistioned in relationship to a vertical shaft engine?? thanks, gonna get started on this project pretty quickly, will be asking lots more questions i can imagine....
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 10, 2009, 07:45:45 PM
No technically you cannot fabricate the chassis. What I did was mark the chassis around the front section cut it off and weld it together instead of bolting and I cut the rear section flush and level with the front of the chassis bottom.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: deere111 on November 11, 2009, 09:04:30 PM
Does EC have the super mod front axles for sale yet? I was looking on the website and it said they are not available yet.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 11, 2009, 09:08:13 PM
Yup just call up and order same price as our standard axles. Tires and rims are seperate.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: deere111 on November 11, 2009, 09:33:52 PM
great, thanks
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 11, 2009, 10:04:57 PM
Gonna build you one...
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: deere111 on November 11, 2009, 10:22:02 PM
yup, I think so
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Post by: jerb on November 11, 2009, 11:40:02 PM
me too.....
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 12, 2009, 05:22:50 AM
Thats what I am talking about. I will say this they are the most fun I have ever had on a mower. Hands down no if ands or buts. You can't turn one over, mine lost the right rear at top speed and just spun out. It don't get much safer than that. Just think had a regular chassis lost the right rear at that speed what would have happened.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: DoNoHo on November 12, 2009, 05:41:32 AM
Thats what I am talking about. I will say this they are the most fun I have ever had on a mower. Hands down no if ands or buts. You can't turn one over, mine lost the right rear at top speed and just spun out. It don't get much safer than that. Just think had a regular chassis lost the right rear at that speed what would have happened.

WHAT HE SAID /\    worth saying again   "  the most fun I have ever had on a mower   "
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Cromwell C4 on November 12, 2009, 09:25:25 AM
Thats what I am talking about. I will say this they are the most fun I have ever had on a mower. Hands down no if ands or buts. You can't turn one over, mine lost the right rear at top speed and just spun out. It don't get much safer than that. Just think had a regular chassis lost the right rear at that speed what would have happened.

BY FAR these things are the most fun and safest mowers to drive. You grow a new confidence driving them, bc you don't have to lift going into a corner, and you know the chassis will handle it.  :D  I almost got myself in trouble going from my super mod twin to the super sportsman.  :lol:
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: TeamScoot on November 12, 2009, 05:50:23 PM
Hey George, since your like the only person ive seen running a vert super mod, how close is your crank to the ground? have you had any issues with it being so low?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 12, 2009, 06:27:12 PM
Nope none what so ever. Its 2 " off the ground. Same as the frame. Engine is 3/4 up off frame on 3/4 tube. No iussues what so ever.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: TeamScoot on November 12, 2009, 07:29:43 PM
alright cool thanks. Do you think that putting the motor down that 3/4" and cutting the crank to keep the ground clearance, would be worth it, to drop the the CG? or is it just a waste of time?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 12, 2009, 07:36:16 PM
I did that for two reasons, exhaust and crank clearance. It isn't high enogh to effect the handling enough you would ever feel it. The overall C/G is so much lower than anything we have ever done, AND I can always put this motor on anything since the crank has not been cut.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Old Goat on November 13, 2009, 08:13:42 AM
I would think the center of gravity is all ready lower on a vertical shaft motor, versus a horizontal shaft motor. So raising the vert. motor 3/4" it would still probably have a lower C/G than a horizontal? The one thing I was wondering is how much power do you loose going through a 90 degree box? Is it worth going out and buying a horizontal shaft motor if you already have a vertical shaft motor?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on November 13, 2009, 08:58:41 PM
thats a good question old goat, been wondering that myself, i dont see running a ragb any less effecient than running a jackshaft, and vertical engines are so much easier to find as well as cheaper, if i dont find a horizontal soon i will be using a ragb on mine as well....
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 14, 2009, 07:18:10 AM
I would think the center of gravity is all ready lower on a vertical shaft motor, versus a horizontal shaft motor. So raising the vert. motor 3/4" it would still probably have a lower C/G than a horizontal? The one thing I was wondering is how much power do you loose going through a 90 degree box? Is it worth going out and buying a horizontal shaft motor if you already have a vertical shaft motor?

Well I don't think that there is any more loss of HP thru the ragb than there is over the sideshaft going thru the jackshaft. it all robs hp to some extent. My biggest issue right now is carbs and issues. After tearing the carbs down yesterday I found all kinds of shavings in the jets from drilling the vents out Friday night at the All American in the dark. Its running right again but tires is still my down fall since I cannot put it to the ground as well as someone with the good dirt tires, that will equalize on some tracks and be a down fall on others. As for the center of gravity, mine is as low or lower than one with a side shaft. Thats not why I went with it, I did it cause I had it and wanted to be different. Once its dialed in and carbs are right asnd tires are hooking up it will be as fast as any even if doubted by some. I am having fun driving the thing. Gonna build a single over this winter using a 13 hp 390 motor. It will be a hot stock nothing fancy. That one will use a jack shaft BUT its a matter of having the motor already OR it would be a vertical too.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: fordman21 on November 14, 2009, 07:55:59 AM
The vanguard guys prefer the horizontal engines mostly because of the oiling system, and the crank shaft is 1.25" shorter/lighter and they have ball bearings on the pto side compared to the bushing in the pan of the verticals. The other advantage is that you can offset the engines a bit more,  building headers isn't as hard and usually there is more room for carburetors too.
You can make any engine work, I don't think there is any more loss of hp through a RAGB than a good jackshaft set up its self, but the chain drive might be a bit more efficient over a hot belt, I'm sure the difference is minimal.
I glad to see more interest in the supermod class.
George your new supermod is a real nice looking machine.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 14, 2009, 08:17:14 AM
Thanks Ryan even though its not finished it does impress quite a few. First question asked is why a vertical motor. But regardless it gets the job done and I am happy with it. Its no different than any other new machine, gotta work the bugs out. Even though this one does not have as many as some I have built. LOL

Here it is compliments of Arron Turner in action running bad too, but still getting the job done.
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Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on January 19, 2010, 07:28:53 AM
here is another short clip I finally got up. This video stuff makes me think too much. But think I finally got it figured out. Maybe I will get someone to shoot some video at the Indoor winter Nationals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s8adv7wJLE
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Post by: LittleMow on January 19, 2010, 09:00:04 AM
That thing Looks and sounds sick! I've watched that video like 5 times already! good Job George! I take it that is you driving?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on January 19, 2010, 09:58:25 AM
yea that one is me. the other longer one is My son first then me
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Post by: LittleMow on January 19, 2010, 10:46:22 AM
I love how i guess your dog, just lays therre while you go ripping around right in front of it.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Jeremy_Conley on January 19, 2010, 11:06:52 AM
George, my son (who is only 1) and I watch these videos of your super mod everyday. He goes to the computer and points and grunts at it and I know what he wants. I can't wait to show him this new video. Keep up the good work
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: pjhusske on January 19, 2010, 02:14:21 PM
Sweet ride. When can I hop on it?
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Post by: Rooster on January 19, 2010, 08:32:40 PM
Can't wait to see that thing on the Syrup!

Of course that was George, Jacob don't spin out!
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Post by: Jeff Digou (Pitguy) on January 19, 2010, 09:08:29 PM
lol  :lol: :woo:
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on January 19, 2010, 09:46:37 PM
I love how i guess your dog, just lays therre while you go ripping around right in front of it.

Yes thats Bandit, he love racing he goes to all the races and loves it rides them with me too. Thats what he was waiting for a ride. He loves watching. He trusts me too I was a bit closer than that video looks. He never flinches.
Can't wait to see that thing on the Syrup!

Of course that was George, Jacob don't spin out!

LOL He don't if I am chasing him. He hasn't drove it yet with the hoosiers. What a ride.  And I can't wait till lebanon either. I wish this one was syrup.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on January 25, 2010, 06:46:49 PM
George, im doing a steering setup similiar to yours to avoid buying expensive u-joints, my question i notice your steering shaft is at a bit of an angle to make it to the center of the axle, do you think keeping the steering shaft straight would cause any problems, i realize the up and down shaft that connects the steering shaft to the bell-crank would not be straight up and down, but would this cause any issues...thanks
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on January 25, 2010, 06:54:07 PM
No I doubt it. Look at the angles of a standard box frame when you come off the bottom of the steering column to the left front spindle arm. Its also at an agnle and wroks great. Same principle so it should not matter
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Seth Brunson on February 07, 2010, 11:55:29 AM
george i love thase rear rims with the bead locks where u get them an do they have them for 4x4 hubs thanks
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Caseracer on February 07, 2010, 05:08:52 PM
Seth,  keep an eye on Ebay for the beadlocks.  I picked up a set of 8 x 8 Douglas Billet Center beadlocks 4 on 110 for less than 150.00 including shipping.

Jack Jones
Hard Case Racing

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Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 26, 2010, 08:57:49 PM
Well Finally brought the new Motor home for it. Hopefully have it all ready for the Spring Thaw

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Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Jeff Digou (Pitguy) on March 26, 2010, 09:01:58 PM
WOW   your going to fly like superman LOL
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 26, 2010, 09:05:53 PM
I hope SO.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: birdman_express on March 26, 2010, 09:08:51 PM
I like the ports for the fuel pumps.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 26, 2010, 09:10:27 PM
Yes can't run both off one pulse. It would cancel the opposite out. Have to pull the pulse from each intake for each c arb/pump.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Tony Loveless on March 26, 2010, 11:05:58 PM
Looks sweet George!
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Post by: George Herrin on March 27, 2010, 03:00:03 PM
Well between all the other projects I got going on With Jake doing most of the body work... (great Kid) I shot some color today. Second time around for chassis. Long story but anyhow with a week to go it might get done...

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Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: redline on March 27, 2010, 03:59:29 PM
I bet Jake remembered to put the hardener in the paint... :lol:
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Post by: George Herrin on March 27, 2010, 04:15:20 PM
Yes he did.... And we used lots of it. Had to prime it twice... The first time I grabbed the wrong can used mineral spirits in the primer instead of regular thinner. It would not dry stayed gummy. Anyhow she is drying quite nicely.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: rednec410 on March 27, 2010, 04:33:17 PM
George, I saw in the build pics that you put a small pulley on the motor and bigger on the gearbox, but in all other builds big goes motor and small on trans. Just wondering what difference was for the supermod?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 27, 2010, 04:42:07 PM
It does not use a transmission it uses a 1 to 1 RAGB.
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Post by: rednec410 on March 27, 2010, 04:51:51 PM
I think I'm just confusing myself, could I give you a call about it?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 27, 2010, 05:14:04 PM
I wanted to continue using the sprockets I alrready had. 12 and 40 thru 48. I have since changed though. It will have a 5 motor and a 7 setup when it goes back together...
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Post by: birdman_express on March 27, 2010, 05:19:59 PM


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Hey, I remember those.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: rednec410 on March 27, 2010, 05:40:36 PM
If you was to use a 700 you would want to use the gear that was direct, so for example a 5 speed 700 lets say third gear was 25 and 25 wouldn't that give you 1 to 1 or as close to it? If so ok I got that much wouldn't you want the input shaft to turn faster than the motor in order to turn the 12 tooth sprocket faster or is their another factor I am missing  :bash:  I know you know what your doing thats why I had to ask
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: birdman_express on March 27, 2010, 05:49:34 PM
or is their another factor I am missing  :bash:

Yes, 25/25 does not give you 1 to 1 in a 700, you have the input gear and bevel to go through.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 27, 2010, 06:47:08 PM
Think of the transmission as a gear reduction box yet it has different levels of reduction. NONE are 1 to 1 so we over drive it to get speed. With the ragb its 1 to 1 which is faster spinning that the transmision so we under drive it a bit or depending on tire size we run 1 to 1 with 6" wheels.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: rednec410 on March 27, 2010, 07:03:46 PM
overdrive tranny underdrive ragb starting to see whole picture now, and you'd be proud of me done a SEARCH and 25 and 25 gear would be more like 3 to 1 in tranny sorry for my confusion  but hay supermod gonna look great
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on March 28, 2010, 12:16:20 AM
i like the colors George....mine will be case ih red and silver/argent.....sponsor thing...lol
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 28, 2010, 06:18:16 AM
The Kids come up with it. Everyone calls me Super Man so thats how they come up with it. I was gonna paint the chassis yellow. Oh well Chassis is blue, hood and fenders red, and number plates yellow all the Super Man colors the kids Say. LOL
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Post by: SILVERDEVIL on March 28, 2010, 10:42:38 AM
you gonna have it ready for next saturday
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Post by: George Herrin on March 28, 2010, 10:44:58 AM
Fingers crossed, its painted assembly will start tomorrow night.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: JohnB on March 28, 2010, 12:11:43 PM
George,
Are you trying the new carbs from the build clinic?
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Post by: George Herrin on March 28, 2010, 01:01:29 PM
No the carbs on this are hl 380 tillitsons which are highly built.
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Post by: royalblu68f100 on March 29, 2010, 01:09:17 PM
The engine looks awesome, if engine looks were horsepower you would win no question!!!!  I love these things great build George!!!!  The carbs look like works of art check out the venturi size!!!!  WOW!!!!!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 29, 2010, 09:37:36 PM
Assembly has started just come in and still lots to go and first race is Saturday

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Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on March 29, 2010, 09:45:46 PM
looking nice George...can you buy the side nurf bars at a reasonable price, i have access to a tubing bender, but no dies that small....
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on March 29, 2010, 10:01:12 PM
Yea I have seen em like mine for 35.00 ea. Made these at work we got dies that small. Carroll made his own cage karts for a few years when his kids were SMALL and racing so we got lots of dies for different size tubing.
BMI Karting has some very close to mine for 25.00

http://www.bmikarts.com/shop/?shop=1&cat=163
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Post by: SILVERDEVIL on March 29, 2010, 10:09:48 PM
looking good george, by the way i'll have the grill you wanted with me at race saturday,
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Post by: jerb on March 29, 2010, 10:49:30 PM
thank ya George.....
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Post by: Rooster on March 29, 2010, 11:21:55 PM
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Loving them Colors!!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on March 29, 2010, 11:42:20 PM
KU.... :owned2:
sorry to hi-jack George....
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: slick28 on April 01, 2010, 03:16:03 PM
u might have said but prabaly missed it any way what did that hood come off of
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 01, 2010, 03:25:56 PM
2009 Massey Furgeson Mower (made by MTD also)
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Post by: slick28 on April 01, 2010, 09:50:05 PM
thanks george
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Post by: rebelchild16 on April 01, 2010, 10:00:40 PM
We felt the thunder here from Tennessee, George must have fired the BEAST off.   :D
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 01, 2010, 10:29:43 PM
Yup shes done and fired it off. Pulling carbs for some final adjutments tomorrow and then a test run and loading er up. Hopefully all go well.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 02, 2010, 02:02:58 PM
Well here it is done. Run a few test laps broke a roker stud run a couple more worked on chain run a few more  and to say that I am satified with this new motor is an under statement. Its WICKED. Here is what she looks like... Gonna rinse it off and start loading then REST I am wore out.

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Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: pjhusske on April 02, 2010, 03:08:24 PM
Very nice George.....
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Old Goat on April 02, 2010, 04:52:25 PM
 :wow: Looks Super Good, Super George!!!  :D :D :D

There is maybe one problem, though.......  Sitting down that low your Superman cape might get wrapped around a back tire!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 02, 2010, 04:54:00 PM
LOL Flying that low a cape ain't needed. LOL
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: berthyd on April 02, 2010, 05:53:08 PM
Nice to see the "Isky" decal on the back panel. Didn't I send you 2 of them, or you just lettin'em all read and weep when you go by??

Bert
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 02, 2010, 07:01:53 PM
Yes you sent two soon as I find the other it will go on but thye only gonna see the back so its good.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Hitch on April 02, 2010, 07:03:42 PM
Get the bugs out I got a 6200RPM flatty like you ain't never seen thats bout ready,44mm carb,my stroker crank, crank trigger ignition & reversed port.Makes a little over 16hp. :rofl: :alcoholic:
Cant tell ya all my tricks.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Jason McCammon on April 02, 2010, 08:41:13 PM
George you got it looking good
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 02, 2010, 08:57:49 PM
Get the bugs out I got a 6200RPM flatty like you ain't never seen thats bout ready,44mm carb,my stroker crank, crank trigger ignition & reversed port.Makes a little over 16hp. :rofl: :alcoholic:
Cant tell ya all my tricks.

That against my Super Modified. Gimmie some of what your on!!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Burwell555 on April 04, 2010, 09:26:47 AM
Wow George that machine is mind boggling. Are ya plannin on bringin it up for the us open?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 04, 2010, 09:35:48 AM
YA never know where I will show up. ran its first race this weekend. Was a rocket. Dropped a cylinder though didn't work on it at the track. And doubt I will today, a bit tired and the grand kids are coming.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 05, 2010, 02:12:17 PM
Well folks enjoy the ride with me on the Super with the new motor. Two laps to go and dropped a cylinder. Nothing bad I am sure but this was done with my new helmet cam. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idaSPqzUopY
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: redline on April 05, 2010, 03:05:27 PM
Coulda stayed on the throttle a bit more  :P

What kind of helmet cam did you get?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Jason McCammon on April 05, 2010, 03:20:17 PM
George that video turned out pretty good.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Old school racer on April 05, 2010, 03:31:21 PM
Great ride George looked like it handled well.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 05, 2010, 05:19:21 PM
Coulda stayed on the throttle a bit more  :P

What kind of helmet cam did you get?

Had I not missed the gearing a tad yea could have drove it deeper BUT the track was also pretty dern rough especially in turn 4 once I realized I didn't have to run real hard I started moving around looking for a smoother line.
Great ride George looked like it handled well.

Yup handled quite well for just a static setup..
George that video turned out pretty good.

Yea I was impressed considering it tiny size and no wires etc etc.

Oh Ed its a Gopro wideangle motorsports camera not even the HD model just a 139.00 cheapie. Easiest thing I ever used...
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: redline on April 05, 2010, 06:47:48 PM
So would I be correct in that the camera stores the video to an SD card, then from there all you need to do is download it to a computer?
 I have been thinking of getting one for a while now just to mess with, problem is I dont know if it will hold up to seeing Bert's ugly mug once a lap without breaking the lens.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 05, 2010, 06:56:54 PM
So would I be correct in that the camera stores the video to an SD card, then from there all you need to do is download it to a computer?
 I have been thinking of getting one for a while now just to mess with, problem is I dont know if it will hold up to seeing Bert's ugly mug once a lap without breaking the lens.

Correct
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: mower_mulisha on April 05, 2010, 08:54:17 PM
Awesome video George.....wow that looked really rough in a few spots!!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 05, 2010, 09:03:26 PM
two spots were pretty rough. The worst I finally found a smooth way around it and bout spun out up in the marbles. its fixed already. 5 minutes tonight and it was ready to go again.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Jason McCammon on April 05, 2010, 09:14:18 PM
two spots were pretty rough. The worst I finally found a smooth way around it and bout spun out up in the marbles. its fixed already. 5 minutes tonight and it was ready to go again.

was it what you said it was the valve seat.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 05, 2010, 09:17:02 PM
NOPE Will PM you. Fixed it in 3 minutes. 5 Most.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Jason McCammon on April 05, 2010, 09:18:02 PM
ok
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on April 06, 2010, 12:25:41 AM
sounded like you needed less gear on that track..... ;)
NOPE Will PM you. Fixed it in 3 minutes. 5 Most.
rocker stud???
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: stroked B/P on April 06, 2010, 12:50:41 AM
hey george, what neck brace was that you was wearing?? i got a simson an had it for years but it worked for me in my stock car but it just isnt working for mower racing lol i got no neck so something thick isnt going to work lol
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on April 06, 2010, 04:24:07 AM
Mine turns down between my shoulder blades, (race wear I think) Can't remember got it at APS Karting. Won't use any other. Never even had a sore neck and have had some serious head landings and had the ole head hit a time or two directly while on the ground.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: tjbryner on April 06, 2010, 07:56:41 AM
NOPE Will PM you. Fixed it in 3 minutes. 5 Most.

If I had to guess.........I'd say electrical, Maybe a wire from one coil shorted out???
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: stroked B/P on April 06, 2010, 08:23:00 PM
Mine turns down between my shoulder blades, (race wear I think) Can't remember got it at APS Karting. Won't use any other. Never even had a sore neck and have had some serious head landings and had the ole head hit a time or two directly while on the ground.

ok cool... thanks bud
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Burwell555 on September 16, 2010, 11:03:35 AM
Ok so I was looking through here, and cant find what seat you are running George. Obviously its a kart seat, what brand/style and size? thanks
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on September 16, 2010, 11:10:01 AM
APS 2xx renegade sprint seat I believe it is.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Rooster on September 16, 2010, 11:59:18 AM
APS 2xx renegade sprint seat I believe it is.

2xx.....were supposed to believe that?
Georges seat size: "Double Extra I ate too dang much chicken!"

If unavailable order size: "There ain't no cart that can pull you, I dunno why we even make this size?"
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Kutt_N_Dgrass81 on September 16, 2010, 12:38:30 PM
 :lol2:  Now, That there is just down right hilarious !   :lol:
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Burwell555 on September 16, 2010, 02:13:24 PM
lol ok thanks george. and rooster thanks for the humor
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on September 16, 2010, 03:23:29 PM
I guess the proper way to write it would be XXL I dunno. Will look when I get home. It was rather hard finding room for brakes and sprockets and stuff once seat was on it.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Jim Knutson on October 04, 2010, 04:06:40 PM
getting ready to build one of the super mods for next year. problem is that all of the ragb i can find are left drive. can i use one offset to in front of r.r. tire with proper bracing and fab work to drive in the same area as right drive units?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: fordman21 on October 06, 2010, 03:04:35 PM
It wouldn't be a problem in WOO, our rules are very similar but you might want to check with an ARMA official.
 It might not be a bad idea, you could probably keep the chain a little shorter that way, and not worry about seat clearance as much.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 06, 2010, 03:27:24 PM
getting ready to build one of the super mods for next year. problem is that all of the ragb i can find are left drive. can i use one offset to in front of r.r. tire with proper bracing and fab work to drive in the same area as right drive units?
Drive line is open if you can make it work that way go for it.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Jim Knutson on October 08, 2010, 02:00:21 PM
 I just havent seen/heard anyone do it. i didnt know if it would create any issues in regards to chain bind from frame flex with the box so far outboard? also any possible belt length/clearence issues? thanks for the replys guys- i have watched both george and ryan alot on u-tube, and cant wait to saddle down into my new mowchine!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on October 10, 2010, 02:05:03 PM
George, was wondering what you aand some of the other guys are running for a final drive ratio, i was leaning towards a 7.1 final ratio, am gonna make my front sprocket easily changeable, will have a 12,13 and 14 front sprocket with an 8'' on ragb and 5'' on engine....was thinking of a 54 rear sprocket for a 7.2 final ratio, any thoughts on this! thanks....
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 10, 2010, 03:24:02 PM
My front is 4.5 (5"a/b) to a 7 (a) to a 12 to a 56 which comes out to a 7.26
Thats with 8" tires with a 50" dia
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: anzadon on October 18, 2010, 07:14:29 AM
What am I missing? With a belt clutch and a RAGB, how do you get a neutral when your not depressing the clutch?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: fordman21 on October 18, 2010, 08:05:35 AM
For the guys that aren't using centrifugal clutches,  in our club you would make a lock for the clutch pedal to hold it down so you can push the machine around like it was in neutral.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 18, 2010, 03:28:48 PM
For the guys that aren't using centrifugal clutches,  in our club you would make a lock for the clutch pedal to hold it down so you can push the machine around like it was in neutral.

ditto
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: anzadon on October 18, 2010, 03:56:15 PM
George- I know you said you are running a clutch cable- but I don't see any pedal. How do you engage, and lock the clutch?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 18, 2010, 06:35:43 PM
I am runnoing a centrifugal right now. I can switch to pedal in about 10 minutes or less. The pedal has a hole drilled thru it and the pivot mount. I press the clutch and stick a pin thru it. Works great. I went with the centrifugal because I let others ride it and its easier for them to take off.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: jerb on October 18, 2010, 06:40:02 PM
thats the plan on mine, using a twist-pull clutch till i can afford a good cent clutch, but im gonna leave all the foot clutch components on there and just use it as a tensioner!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 18, 2010, 07:01:54 PM
Mine is so close (56") belt I use just one pulley. It is also the tensioner when using the Centrifugal clutch.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: anzadon on October 18, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
What kind of clutch are you using?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on October 18, 2010, 07:53:56 PM
Star clutch from APS.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: ctown75 on November 15, 2010, 07:16:58 PM
Is that the quick car steering wheel that EC sells on there?  If so, how ya like it?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 15, 2010, 07:23:30 PM
Yes it is I love it. Pretty tough too.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: ctown75 on November 15, 2010, 07:25:32 PM
Awesome....thanks George!
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: Justin Miller on November 15, 2010, 09:40:38 PM
I am getting ready to build me a super modified and I was wondering if it had to be an offset chassis or can I just build the chassis straight up with both wheels equal spaced like we build regular chassis?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 15, 2010, 09:48:46 PM
The rules states 42" max width. IF you use offset then its specific in the measurements center to left outside sidewall 19" and center to right outside sidewall 23. So if your not using offset the it has to be equal measurements from center of frame to both sidewalls. It does not have to be 42" wide it is the max allowed.
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: 2nstoys on November 16, 2010, 07:57:40 AM
I guess I didn't understand it this way. I am building a supermod also. So I am building it at 20 on the left and 21 on the right. This would not be ARMA legal?
Title: Re: NEW ARMA Twin SUPER MODIFED
Post by: George Herrin on November 16, 2010, 08:15:35 AM
Glenn correct. Make em both 20 or 21 then your ok.