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Title: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on April 03, 2008, 10:53:33 AM
Well here we go!  Been talking about it long enough.  Time to show some pics!  Been building this FX for most of the winter.  Collecting parts and doing my research.  This is entirely EXPERIMENTAL!  Do not try this unless you are willing to take a chance.  I do not know if many of my ideas will work.

I don't have any before pics, but it is a Huffy Broadlawn that I got from Brian G in South Dakota.  I am running a 28 OHV Briggs built by Don G.  I am turning the engine on it's side to avoid using a right angle gear box.

Here are a few shots of the chassis.  I built a new frame out of all new 1 1/4" box iron.  Using a E.C Dist front axle.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_leftchassis.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/leftchassis.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_fullchassis.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/fullchassis.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_frontchassis.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/frontchassis.jpg)

The front end is fully adjustable.  So I decided to go with adjustible cassets in the rear.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_casset.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/casset.jpg)

Here is my set up for my steering.  Not going to use the loop that comes with the EC axle.  Those are not the tie rods I am using.  They are old ones I am using for mock up.  Sorry I don't have a better shot of it!
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_steering.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/steering.jpg)

Next we have some shots of the clutch and jackshaft.  Also the carb and manifold.  The clutch is a Noram clutch that everyone recommends.  I have modified it to run it inboard.  The jackshaft is a piece that I had my local machine shop build.  I is 1" that I had the ends turn down to 3/4" and keyed for the gears.  I did it this way so I could use a bolt in the end of the shaft to hold the gears on and not have to rely on the set screws in the gears.  The manifold I cut with a hack saw and turn it to the position I needed it so the carb would set level.  I used a piece of radiator hose to put it back together.  I am going to run this set up first to see how it runs.  If I need more HP I'll go to a tilly or a mikunni and get a manifold built.  You can also see the 1/4" plate that I used to mount the engine.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_engmount.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/engmount.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_drivesetup.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/drivesetup.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_casset.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/casset.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_carbjackshaft.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/carbjackshaft.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_carb.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/carb.jpg)

This next shot is the bearing and shaft I am using to supprort the flywheel side of the engine.  No I can't tell you what it is made of!  If this works I'll be offering them for sale!  It won't be that long.  I had it made long so I had some extra material to work with.  I haven't decided how I'm going to tighten it yet.  May weld a nut on the end, or have the machine shop mill it so I can put a wrench on it.
Like I said EXPERIMANTAL!
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_wheelbrg.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/wheelbrg.jpg)

Next are some pics of how it will look once all the tin work is on it.  The hood is mounted.  The seat I just drilled and am bolting it to the frame.  It needs to come off for maintenace.  The fenders will hold the fuel tank and pump.  Not sure how I'm going to finalize them yet.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_tins.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/tins.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_reartins.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/reartins.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_moretins.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/moretins.jpg)

Currently working on getting my handlebars mounted and getting my chain tensioners done.
More pics later!

Paul




Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: hotrodmower16.5 on April 03, 2008, 11:07:34 AM
Nice looking build! I have just one question, Do you think there will be oil lube issues with the motor setting like it is?
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on April 03, 2008, 11:12:14 AM
That is the $1000 question.  I have done some things internally to help with this.  My only concern is the valves, but I have an idea for that too.


No I ain't telling either!


Well, possibly if it works!!!


Paul
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: woody7800 on April 03, 2008, 11:15:21 AM
Very forward thinking! I like the engine on the side. I hope it works out well. Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: mowinmachine on April 03, 2008, 11:21:59 AM
This is a very interesting build so far. I too am extremely intrigued about the engine laying on it's side. I'm assuming you're using some sort of pressurized oil pump system? So far it looks fantastic. My only concern is that your carb looks like it'll be running mighty close to the ground, which could mean it gets destroyed by rocks and debris. I assume you're going to have some sort of skid plate for that area?

 Anyhow, too bad I already completed my FX because if running the engine on the side like that works out, it sure would make things less complicated when it comes to having to use a gear box inbetween. Great job so far!
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on April 03, 2008, 11:29:40 AM
The carb sits higher than it looks.  It is about 6" off the ground.  The engine will hit the ground before anything else will.  I may build a skid plate for that, but don't know yet.  The carb will be fine.

No external pump.   It is my backup plan though!

As to the timing of this post, well, even if I had it done I wouldn't of told untill now.  Wanted to let guys get thier stuff built before I released mine.  I do know of a few other FX's that will be this same configuration!
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: hotrodmower16.5 on April 03, 2008, 11:54:27 AM
You gotta let us all if the engine on its side works or not, I'm like you the only problem I see is the valves not getting enough oil, Still I really like the idea!!
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: George Herrin on April 03, 2008, 01:31:44 PM
The engine will/does work at that angle. Oiling is not an issue even up to 7800 rpm's. We got one on a kart been running all last season in an unlimited class. Whooping them when he can get the tires to hook up.
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: mowinmachine on April 03, 2008, 01:43:24 PM
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The engine will/does work at that angle. Oiling is not an issue even up to 7800 rpm's.

 Again- I wish I had known about that prior to building mine.Oh well. I guess if you think about it, the oil slinger is in the bottom corner of the engine positioned that way. So I suppose it would still function in the same way.

BY the way Paul,
That's one cool looking Vette' in the corner. I've been wanting to get a late 70's Stingray for years but my wife says my 55' Merc would have to go first. What is that? a 77-80 model? I've been looking at a few out here in CA, and since the models after 74' had smog equipment, you can pick these up for $4,000 or so. Anything 73' and older is a heack of a lot more. Anyhow, sorry for going off topic. Just thought I'd mention it.
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: redline on April 03, 2008, 01:47:03 PM
Paul, How do you drain the oil with the engine tipped that way?
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: Dylan on April 03, 2008, 01:48:43 PM
i like!!!

looks pretty cool... just curious to know how youll get the oil to all the places it needs to be!
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: Squidd on April 03, 2008, 02:40:33 PM
Is the crankshaft mount a neccessary part of the mounting equation...?

Wouldnt just the pan mounts hold it in line without the chance of crankshaft missalignment...

Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: George Herrin on April 03, 2008, 03:39:49 PM
On the kart the pan is all that holds it on. And the oil slinger which is still in the oil at that angle does just fine. It doesn't run any other oiling system.
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: Dylan on April 03, 2008, 04:51:32 PM
so its a stock block with nothing done for oiling and it works fine?
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on April 03, 2008, 05:02:56 PM
The vette is Dad's.  It is a '76 but the engine isn't stock!  He bought it becasue it was cheep and he always wanted one.  Needs a paint job.

Paul, How do you drain the oil with the engine tipped that way?
Don't know yet!  Planning on just tipping the mower on its side so the engine is sitting normal.

so its a stock block with nothing done for oiling and it works fine?
Well not exactly.  I've done some drilling and grinding.   Venting will change for sure.

Is the crankshaft mount a neccessary part of the mounting equation...?

Wouldnt just the pan mounts hold it in line without the chance of crankshaft missalignment...



Didn't want to take that chance.  That is a lot of weight hanging off that plate and you know how those things shake when you take out the syncro balance.  My fear was ripping the mounting feet off the pan.  It also adds structure to the frame.  I may add another to the PTO side if I break a crank.  As for the missalignment that is why I used a pillow block bearing, they are a little forgving, but yes the bearing needs to be shimmed for proper alignment.  The bearing block has slotted holes so front to back alignment is easy, but the up and down is a bit of a trick!.

Got more parts today, so if I get my brake soon there may be fire next week!

Paul

Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: George Herrin on April 03, 2008, 05:15:55 PM
The kart motor runs on pavement, its a bit smoother, and the motor/crankcase is vented thru the valve cover with a pvc system.  You will like it Paul when ya done. Good job so far.
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on April 03, 2008, 05:18:24 PM
George,
Got the battery and tie rods today.  Everything was fine!
Thanks again.

The kart motor runs on pavement, its a bit smoother, and the motor/crankcase is vented thru the valve cover with a pvc system.  You will like it Paul when ya done. Good job so far.

Thats the plan! 
Paul
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: Scurry Murry on April 03, 2008, 07:43:12 PM
This isn't the only one that will be on its side for 08 if you were at the SD build clinic and knew what to look for you seen what Team RPM has going on. It aint no briggs tho! Shh Shh for those who know, I want to surprise you at the Track and talk later shh shh.....

Looks good Paul, but that mower looks aweful familiar where did you get that at?? Haha

Brian
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: Snowman18 on April 03, 2008, 09:54:34 PM
Hey Paul, looks very cool, I was wondering if you were going to run a Tilly on there instead of the B&S (walbro) carb.
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on April 04, 2008, 06:58:47 AM
Going to run the briggs for now.  I have it and I'm WAY over budget already!  Need to get some seat time in on it and get the chassis dialed in before I do any more wild stuff with the engine.
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: mtd91 on April 04, 2008, 07:07:14 AM
That is a nice setup you got going there.
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on April 05, 2008, 08:09:46 AM
Got some more done and took a few more pics.

Here are some pics of the underside.  It shows the mounting plate and all the other stuff!
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_underrear.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/underrear.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_underfront.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/underfront.jpg)

Here are the chain tensioners.  I used the sprocket type idlers becasue of space.  These are 18 tooth sprockets with a 1/2" high speed bearing.  I have the 5/16" rod to adjust them and hold them in position.  I also tighten down the mounting bolt to keep the arm in place as well.  I have the same setup on my SP and it works well.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_tension3.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/tension3.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_tension2.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/tension2.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_tension.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/tension.jpg)

Next we have the battery I got from E.C. dist.  It is a gel filled battery so it won't spill!  Which I needed so I can tip the mower on its side to change and check the oil.  It is a nice piece, but heavier than it looks!  I just make a box out of 1" angle iron so the battery would not move.  I'll make a hold down out of flat steel and attach to the steering support.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_fullbat.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/fullbat.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_batt3.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/batt3.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_batt2.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/batt2.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_batt.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/batt.jpg)
 Here are the handle bars/steering wheel I am using.  The bar is a handle bar off a Arctic Cat Firecat snowmobile.  I got the bars, master cylinder, throttle.  Going to use the sled throtle too!  I then had the machine shop bend me up a steering wheel and I welded it to the bars.  Make the bar mount just like an old sled or motorcycle.  2 pieces of 1/4" flat steel with 4 holes drilled the same width of the bars.  Clamp down with 5/16" bolts.  These pics also show the final sheetmetal placement.  Everything is bolted down now!
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_fullside.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/fullside.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_fullfront.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/fullfront.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_full.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/full.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_bars.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/bars.jpg)


Back to waiting on parts to finish!  Get the brake and throttle setup done and then it gets torn down for the bottoms of the simulated deck and weld up all my tack welds.
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cubcadet04 on April 05, 2008, 12:56:03 PM
i was thinking of doing this with a vangaurd   but needed to change the oil pick up and carb set up   so i went with the horizontal vangaurd 
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: racing_guy1985 on April 05, 2008, 01:50:48 PM
hey its looking really good so far
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: Wheelhorseracer on April 05, 2008, 08:01:23 PM
I would say you might have some Ackerman issue with your steering.. On rear steering the bolts for the rod ends should be separated by a few inches to make the inside tire turn on a tighter circle than the outside tire..

With your current set-up you might run into excess scrub on the inside tire ..

Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: mightymowe on April 06, 2008, 10:51:53 AM
I was wondering about your vents for the crankcase.They are on the bottom of the engine now,are they just going to spew oil?You may have to do something else and just plug those vents.
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: redline on April 06, 2008, 11:50:41 AM
Bet some guy was pretty mad when he came out of the saloon and found his handlebars off his Arctic Cat missing!!!! (Just Kidding) Are you planning on using a different type seat, or modifying and padding the original? Not too comfy right now I bet!
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on April 06, 2008, 02:27:09 PM
I would say you might have some Ackerman issue with your steering.. On rear steering the bolts for the rod ends should be separated by a few inches to make the inside tire turn on a tighter circle than the outside tire..

With your current set-up you might run into excess scrub on the inside tire ..



That is something I will have to address once I get it all together.  I left enough metal so I could drill some more holes to adjust it if needed.  But it seems to steer the the same as if it had 1 tie rod as E.C sends the front end out.

I was wondering about your vents for the crankcase.They are on the bottom of the engine now,are they just going to spew oil?You may have to do something else and just plug those vents.

The bottom vents will be plugged.  Just going to run a hose between the 2.  I will be venting the crank on the valve cover.  I'll get pics once I get it done.  If the engine ran I'd be tempted to fire it up and I'm not ready for that yet!

Bet some guy was pretty mad when he came out of the saloon and found his handlebars off his Arctic Cat missing!!!! (Just Kidding) Are you planning on using a different type seat, or modifying and padding the original? Not too comfy right now I bet!

Going to use that seat.  Will add some padding and will be building a bar to make a "back" for the seat.   Just not sure what I want to do for that yet. 
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: Skeeter on April 08, 2008, 07:35:19 AM
Paul your ride looks good! You always do a great job. Way to think out side the box. I have won my first two races with my F/X. They drive so much different than the S/P. You gonna love it.
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cubcadet04 on April 08, 2008, 11:46:24 AM
the only thing that looks wierd is how the steering wheel comes out  but you kinda have to do it like that so that theres room on the small mowchines 

soo  you can vent the block with a vent in the OHV cover?
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on April 08, 2008, 12:16:59 PM
Paul your ride looks good! You always do a great job. Way to think out side the box. I have won my first two races with my F/X. They drive so much different than the S/P. You gonna love it.
Thanks Scott!  That is what I'm worried about.  My SP drives like a dream and I think this will be a handfull!  Defiantely will be some interesting moments the first time I drive it.

the only thing that looks wierd is how the steering wheel comes out  but you kinda have to do it like that so that theres room on the small mowchines 

soo  you can vent the block with a vent in the OHV cover?

It is that way for many reasons.  The steering just has to be in the original position of the engine in FX.  I moved the seat higher and more foreward than stock for better center of gravity.  I make the bars so high so I could pull on them and move the weight of the mower from side to side if needed.  I also wanted them that high so I had good control of them.  My elbows are up and the bars won't hit my knees.  It also allowed me to have a straight shot for the steering without U-joints/chain/or extra stuff to make slop or steering hard.

I'm thinking this thing will ride simmilar to a snowmobile.  Taking lots of rider input to make the corners, not just sitting back and driving around the track.  I have the boards big enough that I will be able to drive conventionally with my feet in front of me like on a motorcycle, or be able to put them behind my "rear" with my knees bent like I ride my sled.  Once it runs...........well see!

Paul
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: Squidd on April 08, 2008, 02:12:46 PM
You could probably vent it out the oil drain plug wit it pointing uphill like that...:lol:
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on April 09, 2008, 06:34:18 AM
You could probably vent it out the oil drain plug wit it pointing uphill like that...:lol:

Yes you could!  But I want to know that oil is going to the valves.  Thus the vent in the valve cover!  Should have some fire soon and I'll know if it will be enough.

Paul

Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cubcadet04 on April 09, 2008, 06:55:01 AM
so you want it to "feel" like a sled with bar risers?   

cant wait to see it go
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: mowinmachine on April 09, 2008, 08:38:59 AM
Looks great Paul,
I really like your chain tensioner setup. It looks easy to adjust. So far so good!
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: tgames64 on April 09, 2008, 10:42:48 AM
Paul, you'll like the bars on the wheel, or at least I did.It gave it more of a dirt bike feel and easier steering with the added leverage.Just make sure you sit on it and turn it full right and full left to get the feel of the length of the bars.You will be using the extremes getting around the track and a F/X racers probably uses more counter steering then any other class.
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on April 09, 2008, 05:48:46 PM
Looks great Paul,
I really like your chain tensioner setup. It looks easy to adjust. So far so good!
Guess I never really talked about the tensioner!  It is 1/4" steel so it won't flex with a 5/16" ready rod for the adjuster.  I run this on my sp and it works great.  Loosen the swivel bolt, adjust the ready rod on the end of the arm, lock the rod and then tighten up the swivel bolt.  Simple and easy!

Paul, you'll like the bars on the wheel, or at least I did.It gave it more of a dirt bike feel and easier steering with the added leverage.Just make sure you sit on it and turn it full right and full left to get the feel of the length of the bars.You will be using the extremes getting around the track and a F/X racers probably uses more counter steering then any other class.
Yea, the bars are a bit wider than I would of liked, but I have the exact same bars on my sled, so it should be O.K.!  My biggest concern was to get them so I could easily go lock to lock.  Quickly!  So I don't hit the hay at 40 MPH!

Paul

Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on April 12, 2008, 01:06:20 PM
IT RUNS!!!!  Fired it up last night.  Ran for a long time with no problmes.  Plenty of oil to the valve train as long as you have the right ammount of oil.

Need to get some more pics.  It is almost done.  Brakes and shileds then it comes apart for paint!

Paul

Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: Butcher on April 26, 2008, 02:52:25 AM
Have ran and seen them run like this for 4-5 years. Never seen one w/ added bearing on crankshaft. A horizontal block would bolt up to frame or plate easier. Not sure if this block has oil filter, one that does has a boss to tap into oil from pump that can can be piped anywhere (one w/out might). If turning high rpms (with a good balance) 8k+  tap oil to flywheel side crank journal and drill typical provision to rod journal for added lube and cooling to rod. Also might have to tap to valve cover to spray on valve train as "some" in this orientation have had excessive wear in this area. Rate of excel is considerably faster on "most" in a horizontal setup. Your build looks great, might consider slight taper to cylinder and plateu hone w/ light tension rings, check out specs on an animal (can open up considerable top end rpm's).
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on May 08, 2008, 06:54:01 AM
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_IM000320.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/IM000320.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_IM000321.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/IM000321.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_IM000322.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/IM000322.jpg)

Frame is painted and ready for assembly.  The guy in the pic is Mike Nelson (aka Kramer).  He is my painter and racing partner.  He does some cool stuff!  The color is dark green with prismatique flake over the top.  The hoods will be lighter.

Here is some the cool stuff that Kramer does.  This is his boss' car, owns the local Chevy dealership.  56 Chevy Nomad.  LS7 (yes the 427 corvette engine) and all corvette suspension.  This car had the first LS7 that ran, they beat Jay Leno done!  It went to the Detroit auto show with the GM performance parts devision.  Watch for it on the Hot Rod Power Tour this year!
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_IM000324.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/IM000324.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: mowinmachine on May 08, 2008, 11:51:31 AM
Pretty slick looking paint job. I assume he did the whole infrared bake job on it too. Much nicer than my $15 rattle can job!
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: outlaw#6 on May 08, 2008, 05:03:22 PM
Trying something new and then painting it GREEN! That's asking for trouble! You must not be superstitious.

Looks really nice.
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on May 09, 2008, 05:55:08 AM
Didn't bake it.  It was warm that day and I was able to let it sit for 48 hours.  He used a harder clear than he normaly would use, so he wanted it to dry slow.

Trying something new and then painting it GREEN! That's asking for trouble! You must not be superstitious.

Looks really nice.

I am a bit, but I just wanted somthing different.  I tell Kramer what color I want and he just goes from there!

Wait untill he gets the tin work done!

Paul

Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on June 18, 2008, 10:42:59 PM
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/th_IM000330.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k6/cycloneracer97/IM000330.jpg)
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DONE!!!!!!!!!!!
Man is this thing awesome.  Wish I would of built one earlier.  Need to get my gearing figured out, but other than that everything else seems to be fine.

Will be fun in Zion and Mendota this weekend!

Paul

Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on June 24, 2008, 07:57:33 PM
Well the experiment worked!   Engine lived through 3 days of racing.  I had troubles with my jackshaft all weekend, but I think I have it figured out.

The thing runs awesome.  Finally finished a race on Sunday and finished 3rd behind Mike Miller and Kevin Penne.

One note.  My handle bars are illegal for USLMRA.  The rule states handle bars may be mounted to the wheel.  Mine are handle bars with a wheel mounted on it.  Talked to Manny about it and he let me run as it isn't a safety issue or a performance issue.  I just missunderstood the rules.  I do feel my set up is safer, as do most people who saw it.  But rules are rules!  And I will follow them!

Paul

Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on September 24, 2008, 07:02:52 PM
Update for 2009.

Running the engine on the side has had no ill effects.  Still working out a few bugs in the gearing and some engine stuff.

2009 I will have front brakes on this.  It is WAY to fast and the rears just slide if I get on the brakes hard.  Needs fronts.

I will be putting on a steering wheel as USLMRA has outlawed the use of handle bars.  Not sure the route I'm going just yet.

Had a chance to run it across a scale at a Kart track last weekend.  Heavier that I thougth.............264#

Paul

Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: mowless002 on September 27, 2008, 04:35:41 AM
So looking at the photos(what a beast!!!!!) the ohv intech briggs can be run on their side with no internal oil feed problems?????

Looking forward to see the end result of that mad machine

Good stuff please keep us posted :D :D :D :3gears: :wow:
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on September 27, 2008, 06:13:12 AM
So looking at the photos(what a beast!!!!!) the ohv intech briggs can be run on their side with no internal oil feed problems?????


Well, yes.   But there are modifications that need to be made to make it survive.

Paul
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: donuttrack on February 01, 2020, 10:23:02 PM
Sorry to resurrect an ancient thread, do you happen to have any pics of how you vented through the valve cover?
Title: Re: Paul's 2008 FX build.
Post by: cycloneracer on February 02, 2020, 11:07:45 AM
I donít have any pics.   All I did was drill a hole on the topside and welded on a hose barb.   

Super easy.