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Mower Building / Setup Help => Project Builds => Racing Mower Builds => Topic started by: George Herrin on December 28, 2011, 07:10:15 pm
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Well I thought I would share what I been up too in my free time...
started with Murray wide Body frame rails as my chaissis. Will run another Vertical Tecumseh Engine. This is gonna be a CHEAP build easy build, and again to show it can be done cheaply and yet be fast and win races.
The rear axle is in seat in and fenders inplace.
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Using Jakes hood this is what its gonna look like
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rear view of it LOOK familiar, THATS right its the fenders off OLD RED the original set before I went to 6" wheels. SO inessence this is the 2nd rebirth OF OLD RED. And I will even let the old Bird Drive it.
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Another angle of the rear view
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something different here, using scrap and drop offs I made the axle from 1x2 square tubing We will see how this works I may be redoing the mount for the Steering column as I do not like this one.
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Here is the cross bars and the lagb sitting in there not bolted down as of yet
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nice tight and right against the bearing no flex here.
A rear view of axle and fender mount this is built to sit 2" off the ground.
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here is the deck tacked to the frame, yes I love the look the deck halves give AND i am thinking of incorporating the grass chute into the exhaust as IU did on jakes Single.
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This is the left sode with the deck half on.
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Close up of where the rear sprocket is gonna be
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Here is the right side this is going to be the brake side. ONLY two cassettes here on the axle. The way I have it built frame is 15" wide there is no need for the third bearing. Already have a a couple chassis out there with this setup and it works well.,
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wish we had some guys around there parts that would run these.... looks good george.
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OLD RED WILL NEVER DIE!
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LONG LIVE OLD RED!!!
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so on all your build do you always offset both axle's to the right? also do you set both your plates that hold your heims on the front axle at 10-12 degree's or just the right side?
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No just the Super mods are off set, and depending on how it drives and track conditions as to what we set the plates to.
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Looks good George. I may have to build one for myself...
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Ole red will be a mod x next year!!! New super mod looks good george
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She will be a FAST Mod-X. She will treat you right thats for sure.
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SUPERMAN will fly agian!!!!! Looks good George.
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How much offset are you allowed? Just seems like a lot in the pictures.
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Center of frame to outside right tire is 23, center of frame to outside left tire is 19, some call it 2 inch offset, the difference in measurement is 4" its a total 42" wide.
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Looking at all the Super Mods make me want to build one lol :woo:
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Told ya I did not like the first column mount on the front, so I re did it here is the end result. It leaves the front more open to work on whatever is needed.
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The steering column is in and done.
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LAGB is in and bolted down and jack shaft is started first carrier bearing is mounted.
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I will be adding an outside bearing to the shaft but have to go get another bearing as we were trying something we shattered the one we had.
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What size tubing/rod do you use for your dash and steering supports?
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1/2 o.d. hollow tubing its maybe .125 thick not sure. Its some stuff a friend/customer brought over for a build I did last year he said I could keep the left over stuff. all the square tubing is 1".
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gotcha!
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looks like 3/8 and or 1/2 support and 5/8 steering shaft
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3/4 steering column kit and wheel from JR motorsports
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Isn't it that if I build to US rules I would be legal for ARMA?
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Cool, JR motorsports is about 23tomorrow miles from me.
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Isn't it that if I build to US rules I would be legal for ARMA?
That used to be the case, but US Has had some rules changes since then and with his class I would definitely look at both rulebooks closely.
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That used to be the case, but US Has had some rules changes since then and with his class I would definitely look at both rulebooks closely.
Looking at the US rules for FXS it says 39" minimum wheel base, what is the max? The FXT is 42" minimum so I would like to build a FXS to 42" wheelbase so all I have to do is put a twin on later to make it a FXT... is this ok to do seeing it says no MAX wheelbase for FXS?
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Yes that is OK... I can tell you for handling you dont wanna get over 48. IF you notice though it says unaltered wheelbase.
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Yes that is OK... I can tell you for handling you dont wanna get over 48. IF you notice though it says unaltered wheelbase.
Yea I noticed that too after I posted that lol
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That used to be the case, but US Has had some rules changes since then and with his class I would definitely look at both rulebooks closely.
Looks like if you build to US FXS or FXT you will be legal for MS or MT in ARMA. Thats what it looks like to me at least
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YUP I agree.
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Below are a series of pictures of the rear drive line. Didn't do much the last couple days been tinkering on the truck and some other things Then today it was so nice me and Jake took the bike for a ride. Anyhow still have a lil to do have to add the chain tensioner and a lil more structural work. key to this setup is the shaft slides in and out by hand easily.
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is that rod coming off the gear box a 1" or 3/4?
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3/4" I ran for 2 years using a 3/4 on my last Super Mod twin never broke one or bent or twisted one. SO I went that route again. Plus I had it all just sitting there.
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Curious, what mowers did you get your decks off of that you put on Jake's single and now this one? They have the metal chute where a lot of the ones I have seen have a opening in the deck with the plastic chute that lays over it..
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OLD murray rear engine riders. 30"decks
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That's what I thought
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Test fit man it feels good
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Jake likes it too
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Looking at the seat thru the Steering wheel
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Took the wheel off to see the seat better.
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A better view of the Tillet Racing seat EC sells now. these are shifter kart seats and are deeper and hold you in much firmer. i love it..
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another angle I am real pleased at how this come out.
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Lookin good george!! Cant wait to see it finnished!!
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if rules requre a stock frame how do you widen it out just asking :confused:
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You widen out the axles and running boards... chassis stays intact.
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You basically just have to use the stock frame rails, you can do whatever you want from there.
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Is there any way to enlarge the pics so this old blind guy can see too? Does look reeaal good!
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Is there any way to enlarge the pics so this old blind guy can see too? Does look reeaal good!
Just click on them, they open in a new window, larger.
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Just click on them, they open in a new window, larger.
I did try, they didn't really double in size. I just was looking for maybe 3 or 4 times larger so this old blind guy can see better! LOL O-well
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Press "control" button and roll your scroller wheel...
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Press "control" button and roll your scroller wheel...
I learn something new everyday!!!! :+1:
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Or, you can press the control button along with the + button on your keyboard, it will enlarge the screen by 10% each time. To go back to you normal view, then hit control -. Control n will also "copy" the page you are on, and it will be fully functional.
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THANKS GUYS !! put a smile on my face today! cool works great!
George is the steering shaft 1/2 5/8 or 3/4? Is that your normal setup for supers, and last but not least hows the feel?
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3/4 it's all I use now and fits like a tailored suit
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Looks like it! Thats what I use, 3/4 hollow tube, I like your linkage!
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Simple and very reliable
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OK, G, looked at the pics. Got a question, though. Is your head getting smaller or is your body getting bigger?????
Bert
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BOTH and what sucks is I am starving.
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HERE is a closer view of the center steer pivot linkage arms are 1/4x1 flat bar I use the end of a spindle arm to mark my holes and drill them 3/8
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First time sitting on its own wheels the chassis is pretty much done but drive line from motor to gear box.
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Fender clearance is good and everything is flush with outside of tires. The nerd bars are ECs new product we build them in house with our new mandrel bender. Front bumper is also an EC bumper all this stuff is now on the web site.
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It fits me well, and its very comfortable.
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It fits Jake well also. Its designed around him but he is herrin mowersports future.
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Looking good George!
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Dang George, looking good..Seat looks good to..Is there more seat to sit on than whats on jakes mower ?? Your putting in those hours huh...It shows :twothumbsup:
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yes more seat to it a much deeper but pocket...
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Why did ya go with the 6 inch wheels george.
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Bought from a man getting out of racing had them for several years now
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George going back a few pictures I was wondering what you used for your jackshaft? Is it a one piece that has a 3/4" hole and keyway in one end and 1 1/4" od if so were can I get one is it solid or is it hallow?
Any help here would be great
Thanks
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RAGB has a 3/4 shaft coming out of it. I used the center out of a old rear wheel. I torched it out then cut the ugly off then it slides onto the ragb shaft. then I slide a 3/4 keyed shaft into it to extend it.
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Ok Got it I was laying awake last night thinking about doing something like that but didn't think of using a wheel center. Thanks For the info.
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Looks awesome george! I was wondering the same as others on the 6 inch rears. I like my 8'sheads as it retains some mower like looks.
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YUP I have to agree 8's have a more mowish look. On this one I looked at ease of build what was less work. That would be 6's AND I had them versus buying new rims and tires for 8 setup. And they dont bounce as much as the 8's Plus there are more selections available for tires compared to just two for the 8's the hoosiers versus the american racer. Anyways its on hold till I fifnah a customers chassis.
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George, what gear's and ratio are you gonna run...??? thanks
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RAGB has a 3/4 shaft coming out of it. I used the center out of a old rear wheel. I torched it out then cut the ugly off then it slides onto the ragb shaft. then I slide a 3/4 keyed shaft into it to extend it.
sorry to post in a old tread, but with center of an old wheel used, did you weld it to the extension shaft or just slid it on with a key? :doh:
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slid it on with a key. The key runs the length of the hub. Mower is now finish except paint. I will take lots of pictures when I strip for paint. Got the customers chassis done and gone I had basically a week and half to finish this to run it tomorrow at our second race. We have 20 laps on it here at the house. Shes loaded in the trailer and ready to go. Like I said I will post pictures and videos to finish this thread. I did post some pictures of it on my face book page for those interested and cant wait.
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thanks for the info george, cant wait to see er run
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Well the maiden voyage was a huge success. Right out of the box or off the build table this hot rod was a blast to drive comfortable, and FAST. Track was dry slick and was a handful to say the least practice went evry well and the heat was even better. With just a 2 lb air change the chassis was great motor with a 1/8 turn on the needles was spot on. starting 5th I won the heat.
Only thing done in pits was tighten bottom primary chain. Feature time on the pole not sure what the deal was with second place mower never come up beside me and I kept waiting and not paying attention to the flagger when Nick on his BIG kohler powered hotrod blew by I look at flagman and it was race on. Had no problem staying with the kohler till I dropped a cylinder. Broke and adjuster on one of the rocker arms.
I was very very pleased with the way it worked out of the box. New designs and changes I made in this chassis made a huge difference. I have video of the feature from the helmet cam and soon as I get it up loaded will get it up.
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Well the maiden voyage was a huge success. Right out of the box or off the build table this hot rod was a blast to drive comfortable, and FAST. Track was dry slick and was a handful to say the least practice went evry well and the heat was even better. With just a 2 lb air change the chassis was great motor with a 1/8 turn on the needles was spot on. starting 5th I won the heat.
Only thing done in pits was tighten bottom primary chain. Feature time on the pole not sure what the deal was with second place mower never come up beside me and I kept waiting and not paying attention to the flagger when Nick on his BIG kohler powered hotrod blew by I look at flagman and it was race on. Had no problem staying with the kohler till I dropped a cylinder. Broke and adjuster on one of the rocker arms.
I was very very pleased with the way it worked out of the box. New designs and changes I made in this chassis made a huge difference. I have video of the feature from the helmet cam and soon as I get it up loaded will get it up.
can't wait to check it out along with the finished picks.....
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Looking and found pictures on the ipod. From the material i used which is hockey deflection board and it makes an awesome chain guards. This is the setup I been running all season hope it helps.
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nice I like that. what size sprocket are you running on the norm strarr? I am thinking of getting one since I already have the 90 ragb.
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18
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thanks. then Im guessing a 16 on the ragb to a 46-48 on the rear?
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18/28x14/46
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lol I wasnt even thinking of the bottom of the ragb.....lol I was close on the out put though just from counting and guessing in the pic. thanks again.
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well the latest on the motor. ALL new and just about done.
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Custom HR carbs, and customs intakes just to name a couple of the changes made!!
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Inside the HR. Thanks to EC Distributing for all the work OH and my son Jake he built the carbs, and yes he also works part time at EC, he is becoming quite the carb man.
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What's so special about this one ??? Or is it a freshen up or tryin somethin new ???
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Nothing Special at all. Well yea there is its not a Kohler!!
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Looks good! Those HR carbs should feed it a lot better than the HL-380's
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Looking good George...
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Nothing Special at all. Well yea there is its not a Kohler!!
If that indian could speak , it would tell you that if it had just one wish in this world ....... it would be bein a KOHLER :lol: :D Well ....... we've seen the motor upgrade ...... but what about the steering hub upgrade :D
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If that indian could speak , it would tell you that if it had just one wish in this world ....... it would be bein a KOHLER :lol: :D Well ....... we've seen the motor upgrade ...... but what about the steering hub upgrade :D
You see what your allowed to see Told what you need to hear, AND if That Indian could talk it would tell ya how many Kohlers it done scalped. Not all mind you but most its run against and it would never ever want to be a kohler. AND you got nothing to worry about at all remember as you have a Kohler... i just have a lil ole Tecumseh which you done said would never run with a kohler.. Its all about the ride on a Sunday Cruise around the park.
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Mike last year it wasn't the biggest motor than won the race, quite the opposite actually, it was a mower that was consistent and handled well. Handling is far superior than engine in my opinion.
George, how do you like 6" rear wheels on the super mod twin
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I like them better than 8's.
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Question what dose Ryan Kerr use for a engine a vanny or what? The one who won the USLMR this year in points.
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He runs a Kohler.
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Oh, how do vannys do in the fxt class?
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You see what your allowed to see Told what you need to hear, AND if That Indian could talk it would tell ya how many Kohlers it done scalped. Not all mind you but most its run against and it would never ever want to be a kohler. AND you got nothing to worry about at all remember as you have a Kohler... i just have a lil ole Tecumseh which you done said would never run with a kohler.. Its all about the ride on a Sunday Cruise around the park.
I'm just givin you a hard time ole buddy .... ;)
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I'm just givin you a hard time ole buddy .... ;)
And I am taking it a giving it back just living the dream.
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Oh, how do vannys do in the fxt class?
They hold their own. They can be built to perform with the Kohlers. A great chassis is key. Before Ryan ran the Kohler he started with Vanguards, he still builds Vanguards also. A Ronnie McClain built Vanguard won the US V twin shootout in Michigan the last two years I believe.
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Oh, how do vannys do in the fxt class?
The vannys do very well in fxt with the right parts. At the finals Rich Webb was the second fastest behind me with one of my vanguards. It was just a 34ci back up engine. We are getting just under 80hp out of them.
George the big carbs look good, doesn't look like they are going to restrict too much. Kind of like a pair of toilets on a boeing 757 lol. I was wondering when you were going to give those a try.
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One thing at a time Ryan. Problem is no patience going back to what I know and what got me to where I am. Patience experiments and fun. While it may not be much its mine and I am having fun with it. Toilets lol I like that.
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Hopefully they will be flying toilets!!!
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George the big carbs look good, doesn't look like they are going to restrict too much. Kind of like a pair of toilets on a boeing 757 lol. I was wondering when you were going to give those a try.
That was a good one Ryan, :lol: And George you better hang on to you that thing you may have more motor now than you can hang on to. Those short intakes like that will really wake it up and add better throttle response. Should be some great racing!
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what size rear tires or those and did you have to grove your chassis for the axle at all i cant see in the photo
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Murray is a 3" tall frame I used 6x9 wheels and 12x9x6 tires. axle is laid on the framewith mounting hardwarepush the hardware up to frame get square tack in place. Remove axle and cut the frame where it sit. I have square tubing run the length of rame. So basically I cut/remove the top of the frame exposing the square tubing. This gives axle clearance and puts me at 2" ride height.
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How exactly do you make the shaft coming out of the gearbox were your sprocket goes longer?
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Used a trans axle - axle cut down joined at gear box using a wheel hub we cut out of a wheel.
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could you post a close up picture of what is looks like so I could get a better idea. and what size shaft is it?
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3/4 shft will look to see if i have a close up
IF you go back and look at the first two pages it dont get no more close or detailed pictures than those.
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ok thanks!! you builds have really helpd me out
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Used a trans axle - axle cut down joined at gear box using a wheel hub we cut out of a wheel.
I understand how you did that and I was going to ask the same thing if you used the incert of a wheel. but did you weld one end of the insert to the 3/4 or what cause I cant see what keeps the shaft from comming off the RAGB. I know the insert is keyed on to the axle and the RAGB, also that the insert is bigger than the bearing on the support end, but other than just the keyway, what keeps the axle from sliding outward? I was just trying to make my self clearer but may have made it more confusing.........sorry
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3/4 split locking collars keeps everything in place.
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ok thanks. I see now.
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Would 12x9x6 on 6x10 rims in the rear work on this setup? And what size tires and rims are you using in the front?
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Not on mine as its built. Sprocket on my left side doesnt GIVE ROOM. Put sprocket on right side and yes.
Before I went to the front brakes I had 11x5.5x6 tires on 8.25x6 rims. building a narrower front axle so I can go back to that wheel size.
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Alright thanks
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now that Hoosier is making 6 x 6.5 tires Would you consider them ?
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I will consider them down the road as it sits I am sit up for the 5.5 and I really liked how they worked on a 8.25 wide rim.
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Good to know Thanks
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as you can see finally after all this time We painted the Super Mod. We also built a second Jacob gets the first with mine is the new with the older cub hood!! Build pics on my face book page kinda I didnt do a normal build pictorial on it.
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The plexi glass dash looks pretty cool.Nice touch. :)
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mower looks a lot like mine George I like those hoods gives an old school look now u just need a kohler under there :D :D we all know that will never happen :noplease:
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mower looks a lot like mine George I like those hoods gives an old school look now u just need a kohler under there :D :D we all know that will never happen :noplease:
Me with a Kohler/Mostly Chevy motor that would be like me getting on or even owning a Deere not going to happen. I like being different and I was told a tappet motor would never run wit a roller kohler course we know how that went too!! I love my lil Indians and being different.
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Well I thought I would share what I been up too in my free time...
started with Murray wide Body frame rails as my chaissis. Will run another Vertical Tecumseh Engine. This is gonna be a CHEAP build easy build, and again to show it can be done cheaply and yet be fast and win races.
The rear axle is in seat in and fenders inplace.
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Using Jakes hood this is what its gonna look like
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rear view of it LOOK familiar, THATS right its the fenders off OLD RED the original set before I went to 6" wheels. SO inessence this is the 2nd rebirth OF OLD RED. And I will even let the old Bird Drive it.
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Another angle of the rear view
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something different here, using scrap and drop offs I made the axle from 1x2 square tubing We will see how this works I may be redoing the mount for the Steering column as I do not like this one.
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Here is the cross bars and the lagb sitting in there not bolted down as of yet
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nice tight and right against the bearing no flex here.
A rear view of axle and fender mount this is built to sit 2" off the ground.
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here is the deck tacked to the frame, yes I love the look the deck halves give AND i am thinking of incorporating the grass chute into the exhaust as IU did on jakes Single.
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This is the left sode with the deck half on.
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Close up of where the rear sprocket is gonna be
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Here is the right side this is going to be the brake side. ONLY two cassettes here on the axle. The way I have it built frame is 15" wide there is no need for the third bearing. Already have a a couple chassis out there with this setup and it works well.,
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WHere did you get your Left Angle Gear Box?
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off ebay.
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I am 13 and I am building my first racing mower. your posts have helped me a lot. good luck racing and one other thing, OLD RED WILL NEVER DIE! :)
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What’s the length of the Murray frame rails?thanks