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Post your Pics! / Re: Oppy Valve covers
« on: November 28, 2012, 07:42:27 am »
It's powder coated.

I threaded the governor bushing and run a breather on there and see how it works.

I will display my abysmal ignorance once again...  :-)  What is powder coating?  Not a home-shop process, I suspect.

Your governor bushing could have been easily removed before tapping, and on mine I put a 1/4" pipe "drop" in there as a splash shield.  I put just the breather in the tapped governor hole in a 479cc Vanguard, and it blew enough oil to make more mess than I want.  Not a huge ammount, but always oily.  Enough that if you piped it to the air filter it would cause a tiny bit of exhaust smoke.  Maybe a lot at high RPM(?), but I never wound it up very high like you racers do.
Garry
Anything looks faster with some Bowtie Orange :twothumbsup:

Bowtie orange?  What the hey is that?  :-)  Like international orange the hunters use?  I want snazzy, not obnoxious...  LOL!  My engine will be in full view and an eyesore against all the other bright colors unpainted, to me.  Dosn't matter if it overheats and blows, as long as it looks good doing it!
Garry

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Post your Pics! / Re: Oppy Valve covers
« on: November 27, 2012, 07:52:08 am »
Just showing off my valve covers off a bit. What do ya think?



Looks good. and I like the paint also.  I heard both ways on paint and cooling, but B&S often did it...  My engine has different colored parts because of different part sources.  I think I want a snazzy paint job.  What paint did you use, and what primer?  I want something flashier than "barbecue black..."  :-)
Garry :weefly:

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Coffee Shop / Re: Best reading on the web....seriously good info!
« on: November 21, 2012, 07:29:30 am »
http://www.pace7232.org/reporter/Jun%2002/production_of_opposed_twin_ends.htm

A must read!

There is a "new" 46 shortblock at Small Engine Warehouse also, but it's a parts-stripped engine and not much for the $450 plus shipping price...  But, if one wanted to start with new...  I figure I might get a nice pile of junkers for the same price?
Garry

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Coffee Shop / Re: Best reading on the web....seriously good info!
« on: November 20, 2012, 04:39:32 pm »
http://www.pace7232.org/reporter/Jun%2002/production_of_opposed_twin_ends.htm

A must read!

Some good info. there!  Thanks Rooster.
Garry

P.S.  There is a 46 for sale in Wisconsin CraigsList...

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Briggs Flathead / Re: oppy converting
« on: November 16, 2012, 05:15:02 pm »
The 18.5 is almost always a 42. I think towards the end of production Briggs really was just throwing whatever parts together.
Also possible someone switched tins.
What was the model # on yours Garry?
Rooster crow'd correct...  I finally figured out the correct way to measure the stroke, and she indeedy be a 42 cubic incher...  No biggie, I just have what I thought I bought 'tis all. :P
Garry

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Briggs Flathead / Re: oppy converting
« on: November 15, 2012, 06:25:23 am »
Garry how did you adress you valve oiling issue do you have pics and also how about your dip stick issue also in the conversion you can send them through my email charginrt07@gmail.com

Sure, I'll take a couple today, later.  I described it in a previous post, but pictures say everything better.  If nothing else you can see what you do not want to do!  LOL!  I'll likely stick a drill bit or two in the 3/16" holes so you can see where the holes are now.  Remember, I'm a first-time newbie also, and I just adapt what Don G. has in his DVD to my particular block...  Doing the porting is actually fun.  I havn't done so many I'm jaded as yet. :P
Garry

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Briggs Flathead / Re: oppy converting
« on: November 14, 2012, 05:34:04 pm »
Ive jumped in head first i actually gave it a shot and got good results from it i learned what direction to go by studying the carb a bit. Where can i find his book or video at and also im working on a attachable accelerator pump at the moment.

You can google G-Team Racing, or it's available on eBay as engines 101 from his eBay store.  It's well worth the $39 and I use the heck out of mine porting and such, but I was a little tongue-in-cheek on my previous post.  Don races with the stock carb because it works fine for him (according to the DVD), and Rooster posted he buys his carbs from a carb guy.  I'm not going to use the briggs carb myself, not being a racer, and I have two in my trading stock.  However, no one here is into the barter system apparently.

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Briggs Flathead / Re: oppy converting
« on: November 14, 2012, 07:14:49 am »
No one stiill has told me how to jet the carb on these stock oppie carbs.

It's covered a bit in Don G's oppy DVD, and Rooster has written what he does in posts here... :P  Why not dive in for yourself and experiment?  That's where the fun in this hobby is.

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Briggs Flathead / Re: oppy converting
« on: November 13, 2012, 07:45:54 am »
Can you convert a vertical oppy to a horizontal i see the plate on the side of the engine where you can switch the engine mounting location with the proper pieces i got another engine and it is a 18.5
Also i got my mower today it is a wizard lawn tractor which will be the victim for my race mower guys i really appreciate the help.

Hey Mowpower...,
Your conversion make the oil dipstick/fill disappear like mine did?  My horizontal base has a hole tapped and plugged at the oil level like it could be used on equipment where oil was checked by taking the plug out.  I'm liking that, and am using it.  To fill I'm putting a tee in the old governor shaft hole, which I have tapped to become part of the crankcase breather system.  Yes, it is splash-shielded.  It has a 1/4 inch drop pipe threaded into the inner shaft support.  I'm enjoying this conversion because it requires looking at the workings of the change and getting creative.  There are quite a few small differences among block types and years, it appears.  Gotta go with what your's is!
Garry

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Briggs Flathead / Re: oppy converting
« on: November 11, 2012, 03:50:14 pm »
Garry,
Post a pic of the crank. Specifically the part that connects between the 2 crank pins. If you can.

Caint-not do photobucket, and not that eager to learn yet another procedure.  Want me to look for something you need to see and report back?
Garry

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Briggs Flathead / Re: oppy converting
« on: November 10, 2012, 03:37:40 pm »
i only saw one oppie at the All American...in one of the lower classes. pretty much a dead horse. Maybe its time to trade her in? Sure be a lot easier......just saying.

Like trying to change any other kind of addict, you are most likely wasting your breath, or electrons...  :-)  Especially with old-stuff lovers like me.  My interest isn't as a racer, so at least my insanity for the old oppy isn't totally off the wall.  Besides, perhaps none of the top oppy builders made it to your mentioned race? The boxer design has some actual advantages also, like fewer vibration issues...  :3gears:
Garry
The 18.5 is almost always a 42. I think towards the end of production Briggs really was just throwing whatever parts together.
Also possible someone switched tins.
What was the model # on yours Garry?

Well, this old feller has embarassed himself, again...  As a double-check on my 46 (allegded) crankshaft, I measured the bore, measured the worn area for stroke, subtracted for the difference between the high ring and the oil ring, did the math and...  Ta-da(!) came up with exactly 44 cubic inches.  I give up... :confused:   Yet the crankshaft does measure what I have read as the ammount for the 46.  I gotta cut back on some of those prescriptions I guess! :weefly:

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Briggs Flathead / Re: oppy converting
« on: November 09, 2012, 04:06:18 pm »
The 18.5 is almost always a 42. I think towards the end of production Briggs really was just throwing whatever parts together.
Also possible someone switched tins.
What was the model # on yours Garry?

The tin says 422707-1510-01.
Mine also says 42 but it is alot bigger than my 40 for just two cubic inches more.

Mine struck my newbie eyes as larger also...  It also has some relief clearance grinding inside as if the crankshaft counterweights would hit otherwise.  Being new to these engines, I really don't know what is usual though.  I think you may want to check crankshaft stroke, for grins at least.
Garry

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Briggs Flathead / Re: oppy converting
« on: November 09, 2012, 05:53:27 am »
If i were to run dual carbs on an 18.5 oppy which ones should i use.

You may want to switch to displacement rather than B&S horsepower labeling for these guys so they know exactly what you have.  My 18.5 has 42ci numbers and heads, but turned out to actually be a mis-labeled 46ci!  Was I happy. oh yeah! 8)  (Measure the crankshaft throw.)
Garry

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Briggs Flathead / Re: oppy converting
« on: November 08, 2012, 11:52:09 am »
Can you convert a vertical oppy to a horizontal i see the plate on the side of the engine where you can switch the engine mounting location with the proper pieces i got another engine and it is a 18.5
Also i got my mower today it is a wizard lawn tractor which will be the victim for my race mower guys i really appreciate the help.

I was puttering a bit on my conversion today and found something that may be of middlin' interest to you.  As I have posted, I am doing every upgrade in Don G's oppy DVD.  One is increase the drain-hole size in the valve chamber.  Well, that's moot in the existing hole, which is placed to be in the lower corner in the vertical position.  In horizontal it is in an upper corner, so the chamber would fill to the oil inlets with the valve stems submerged.  I dunno 'bout you, but that's not how I want mine to run.  So, in my block I need to create new, larger drain holes in what is now the lower corner... ;)
Garry

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Briggs Flathead / Re: oppy converting
« on: November 07, 2012, 06:39:02 am »
You need an engine mount or sump. The block rear cover comes off the vertical and the new horizontal sump bolts there. The side cover for a horizontal bolts were the vertical sump is. Search ebay. You need a sump, a side cover, a dipper for the number one rod, You need a sump with a dipstick hole. Youll also need an intake for a horizontal. Easy to do. The only difference is the crank is close to 2 inches to long in the lower bearing area wich will stick out of the side cover when the vertical is made a horizontal.

Whoo-hoo!  This is a timely thread for me!  I'm right in the middle (in my case muddle) of doing a vert to hori conversion right now!  Just cleaning up the parts on the newest engine in the conversion, the verticle shaft.  Not sure if I want to use the horizontal crankshaft I have, or use the longer verticle crank.  The longer may have advantages for me.

Has anyone ever run a oil splasher on both rods?  Like the long improved one on number one like stock, and a smaller one on number two maybe?  Wouldn't that douse the innards better on a standard-reving engine?  I could see problems on the high-reving engine frothing the oil to much, maybe...? :confused:
Garry

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