Heymow - Lawnmower Racing Forum
General => Coffee Shop => Topic started by: mowinmachine on December 19, 2006, 12:22:22 pm
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Hey folks,
I'm originally from NC, but I live in California now. I've been interested in getting into mower racing, but there doesn't seem to be any chapters out here ( guess since nobody can afford big yards out here, there just aren't many riding mowers) anyhow, that was question 1, which was if there are any chapters out here.
Secondly, being new and all, I don't even have a mower yet. I've seen a lot of them for sale here and there in the 150-400 dollar range,which seems allright. Been thinking of using an old rear engine Ariens since they're lite and simple machines with good frames. Looks like in order to make a basic bare-bones racer, you just put a big pulley on the engine and a little one on the tranny. That and put on a better muffler. Any other tips? I'm all ears!
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Yeah put on BETTER BRAKES! Stopping is mandatory, goin fast is optional! The brakes on there, are not designed for the speeds you intend going.
Read this thread if you haven't already... http://www.heymow.com/index.php/topic,572.0.html
As for groups in California, there are a few guys around here that have expressed interest out there, not sure what parts of California they're in. There are a few groups in Oregon and Washington and I believe they have a few followers in Northern California. Try the G-Sources Page or the sort through the Yahoo Groups... That's about all I can tell you!
http://www.g-team.us/g-sources.htm
http://sports.dir.groups.yahoo.com/dir/Recreation___Sports/Sports/Auto_Racing/Lawn_Mower_Racing
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Ya, I kind of figured that much. A few guys here and there, but nothing much. Thanks for the tips and stuff. I'd really like to build one of these, but if there aren't any other people involved, then that's sort of useless. We'll see...
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Well one of the guys was talking about trying to get a group together, don't know where he's at with that. Wouldn't hurt to sort through members and see how many are in California, and do a search and see what threads pop up, and follow up on a few of those. They may still be wandering around looking for others as well.
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I've had this idea for awhile. I live out near an abandoned military base turned over to the city. It is huge and has literally miles of flat concrete landing strips that are in perfect condition. The city uses it for events like showing movies in the summer. There is also a car show. I thought it would be cool to start drag-mower racing. Straight 1/2 mile to one mile races with racers going flat out as fast as possible. Again- there aren't many big yards here and frankly, being in the SF bay area, seems like everyone's too hip to even think of owning a mower. So it's more of an oxymoron. It'd be fun as heck to use that drag strip for something like this. I know the locals would get a kick out of it.
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That being the case you need to look at the National Drag Racing Lawn Mower Association (http://www.ndrlma.com/) and see what they might have out there in the area.
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Looks like the same deal there- all the chapters in TX, NC, TN, AL, etc etc. One thing that I'll throw in that's sort of cool is that these landing strips I mentioned are very close to the Mythbuster's shop. They are on one of the hundreds of buildings on the base. Ever seen episodes where it looks like they're doing stuff on a landing strip? that's the landing strip near my house. Just imagine if one day they're out there filming or blowin stuff up and see 100 guys drag racing lawn mowers? bet they'd be blown away huh?
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Lawn Mowers doing 100 MPH next Episode!
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exactly! Except if those guys got involved, they'd do something ridiculous, like strap a jet engine to a Murray. 100 people would be wishful thinking. It'd be more like 5 in reality. lame I guess but you have to start somewhere. Maybe I'll start a site and do some advertising and get some folks together out here.
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Just build it, they will come. I have all kinds of people wanting to see my mower run.
I live in a small town, I think the first to have a fully planned USLMRA rules mower in the area.
The others are based on it. But the main thing is that they want to see how it runs when it
is built. I told them if it doesn't go 60 mph, I will fix it. They think I am joking. But that has
them interested. So just get something built, anything built..... safely built. They will come.
The redneck will come out... I got to get me one of those! LOL...
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Well... I hope there are some closet rednecks out here. I'm sort of the redneck living in the city over here... people want to talk about whale watching, protesting... crap like that.Yuppie stuff. I grew up in a very small town too. not even a town really, and we had a FLEET of riding mowers. I just wanted to get back into it. People here do find stuff like this amusing, but probably not cool like I think it is. They have craploads of money though, so maybe I could make T-shirts and stuff and sell them to raise money to get an event going. There's lots of rockabillies out here who tend to glorify redneckism ( even though they don't really understand it) Maybe I could hang some flyers up in the bars that they tend to congregate at.
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All proceeds go to the whales, just a thought... lol
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Maybe I could hang some flyers up in the bars that they tend to congregate at.
Excellent Idea!! Likewise the website is a good idea as it gives you someplace to send them for more information. There you can direct them to other sites of similar interest, see the G-Sources page linked above for ideas. And, to MowBetter for more information on building them.
If you have any electronic classfieds in the area, pop an ad up on those as well. That will gain exposure for you very quickly also. Get the site set up first however, so you can direct them to the site.
If you run across any car shows locally, get the mower entered and man the booth. Works better if you have a couple of you there so you can sneak away to eat and take care of nature calls. Have business cards and flyers made up to hand out to every one.
Make the local parades!!
Find the nearest club, join and tell them you would appreciate some help getting things off the ground. If you can line up racers, get permission to use the runaway and hold an event. Advertise as much as you can afford. Flyers in bars, grocery stores, any place you can find a bulletin board that will let you hang a flyer!!
It's all about exposure, you have to be seen to get the message out. It's a tough row to hoe, when you're the only too, it makes it about impossible to be seen when you're all alone, but if you make a enough noise and make a big enough presence it will happen.
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I know there is a group in Potter Valley. Contact Chini here on the board.
I'm in Santa Rosa, but I'm starting to feel like I have the only hot rod mower for miles around.
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The good thing about stuff around here is that people really react to new things. I think it would be fairly easy to do some street advertising and get people to come. The fact is that it would be really different and strange compared to everything else. We have a local paper that will put anything you want to mention as an event in it for free- and people generally read that section too. I have to get the mower first!
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Now we got 3 of you... but there are more here!
Local paper is cool as well. On the website www.bluehost.com is <$8/month for everything! That'll get you webhosting, domain name, and your own message board, for $94 a year. If you go 2 years on that it drops to <$7/month. They have online design tools as well, so if you don't have the software to build the site, you can build it there. Since it is paid server, you don't have any adds to contend with, and you can pick your own Domain Name, not... www.geocities.your_name.yahoo.com/something/whatever
Get after the site first, then get after the advertising, get your mower built in the meantime so those interested have something to look at. You may want to see what kind of interest is there first, others might prefer road course racing to drags. You may want to go a different direction, or even multiple directions.
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The good thing is that I make web sites for a living, so that part will be easy. I can definantly do the marketing and stuff. I guess I also worry about insurance and stuff. I don't have a lot of dough to pay off someone who gets hurt out there. might have to get a lawyer or someone to make a disclaimer or something.
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Hey mowinmachine, now's our chance to start a club or something. I still have 2 more craftmans for parts. Frames and all. Even got a decent OVXL125 for you to get started with. My Kohler is mine. There is a guy in Petaluma with a mower junkyard, and a junk pile in Sebastopol with a ton of stuff. They even have a couple Cub Cadets in the pile.
Peerless 700's are kinda hard to find around here. I still run a Foote transaxle.
The best part is, I have a ready to go track to get started. We just opened it up so its about a tenth/mile.
Right now we use it for karts, but I like my mower better.(mowbetter?)
I agree about the waiver thing. Just like bracket racing. Dont sign it=dont race. I think a few basic safety rules will really cut down on the problems anyway. How does NBLMRA sound? NCLMRA is already taken by N. Carolina.
How about RELMRA. Redwood Empire Lawn Mower Racing Associaton.
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The good thing is that I make web sites for a living, so that part will be easy. I can definantly do the marketing and stuff. I guess I also worry about insurance and stuff. I don't have a lot of dough to pay off someone who gets hurt out there. might have to get a lawyer or someone to make a disclaimer or something.
That's why you need to look at sanctioning through an existing organizational body. The USLMRA, ARMA, NDRLMA, and others all provide insurance to their local chapters. Coverage up to $2,000,000 in fact and the cost to you (the local club) is very reasonable. And, as the sport grows, it is becoming more and more affordable as well, because mower racers do preach a lot of safety and we really don't have a great many claims turned in.
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Hey Mopar,
Well I'm still looking around at some riding mowers. There's a few on craigslist for 100-300 bucks. Some of them are pretty nice machines. Anyhow, someone got back to me and said that there are no official racing chapters in Cali, so if there is to be one, then we would have to start it. Again- not sure how many people would be into it, but I suppose at least building something to start with would be worth while. I'm going to have to do some research and paperwork to see how practical this might be. Basically, I just want to build a racing mower but have no place to actually drive it since I live in a neighborhood with postage stamp sized yards. We'll see... can't really do anything until after the holidays anyway.
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I wont be doing much until after the holidays myself.
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(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/sr71mopar/th_track1.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/sr71mopar/track1.jpg)
This is our track. Tri-oval, banked corners. We are working on widening it to the outside by about 10' all the way around.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/sr71mopar/th_mower7.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/sr71mopar/mower7.jpg)
This is my beast. I have enough parts to build at least one more just like it. Right now its set up for plow tractor mode. (Couldnt do the track without it) I have a 3 1/2" pulley on the front and a 8 1/2" in the rear. Its a foote transaxle, but I went through it (50/50 moly grease and gear oil). Foote 4360 and Peerless 930's share alot of parts. Its pretty tight and I keep the input speed down.
I've got nearly all the slop out of the steering, and I run 8"s all the way around.
I ran a 6" pulley on the front for a few days and decided to put the small one back on till I lowered the mower a few inches.
Dont let the 12.5 HP stickers fool you. I transplanted a CV15 with a few well chosen mods. Strong engine.
I think after the holidays, I'm gonna buy a brand new 700. Am I correct in thinking that I want a 700-039?
Ignore the dates in the pics. I took them today.
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Nice looking track.
:D Thanks Birdie... fixed it for him! Rocky
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Well I finally got on the computer,very interesating subject for discussion. I have just completed my ruff draft of rules, and will have a complete set in a week or so. At that time I will meet with Potter Valley Rodeo Committee about scheduling race dates.I also am trying to get at least one date(hopefuly more) in Willits. If you would like more info, contact me and I will be glad to share anything I can. Thanks KEVIN
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Hey SR71MOPAR, I run the same mower.Mine is lowered 2" Same foote transmission. Mine sports a 14hp briggs.My gearing is 6" on the engine to 3.5" on transmission. I have Redline Shockproof oil in the transmission, makes a whirrin noise, but keeps haulin grass!
I would like to know where your track is? When do you race? Please let me know. See Ya KEVIN
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The track is off E.Todd rd. on the south end of Santa Rosa. Its not as big as it looks, but we're working on it.
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Nice looking track! indeed, that would be fun to race on. I am still tracking down a mower. I emailed 3 guys who had machines in Craigslist for under 100 bucks. NONE of them called me back! So I think I am going to wait until after X-mas to try again. There seems to be tons of mowers for sale in Sacramento, so I might get one there. I might also make a post on there to see if anyone has some junkers that they wouldn't mind selling me for lawn mower racing. Seems like those ols Sears/MTD machines are ideal huh? What do you guys think about an old Ariens rear engine unit? I've seen a few of them around on some racing sites and they seem to fly. Not as common though.
About how far is Santa Rosa from Alameda? ( Bay area).
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It's only about 45 minutes away if you dont get stuck in traffic.
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45 minutes aint too bad. I could definantly do that. Tell you what, I had some ideas and considerations that would need to be made.
A: If we went through with making a CA club, would we make a chapter?
B: Would it be easier to have a real loose collaboration? No president- just people that show up?
C: Would we have a signed waiver so that people wouldn't sue over getting injured? A non-liability clause?
D: I suppose we'd adhere to USLMRA rules to keep it simple.
E: when would there be races- every month?
Lastly, how to get the word out. I can definantly do the web site and stuff. Getting in contact woth newspapers would be the next thing.
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Don't want to bust your bubble, but waivers are not worth the paper they are written on, when you have a greedy lawyer picking them apart. They are a necessity so you have some indication that the individual was not forced onto a lawn mower resutling in his being injured regardless, but if it comes down to liabilities, there are only about 10,000 things they can find you at fault for if you have no coverage.
Sign on with someone, and get the insurance coverage guys! If you want to go USLMRA I can speak with Bruce Kaufman and see what kind of hoops you need to jump through.
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On getting the word out... Get a mower or two built, and shoot for a human interest story on the local news. If you go USLMRA, the Association will assist with press releases.
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Well... I am going to go look at a Sears riding mower. The guys selling it doesn't know anything about it other than it doesn't run. Wants $50. We'll see what a Beaut' this one is. I have to get a mower first if I am going to be seriously invested in this. I hear ya on joining up with USLMRA. They have all this stuff figured out so I guess a waiver would be a bad idea.
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Good luck dude :D
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Well... I am going to go look at a Sears riding mower. The guys selling it doesn't know anything about it other than it doesn't run. Wants $50. We'll see what a Beaut' this one is. I have to get a mower first if I am going to be seriously invested in this. I hear ya on joining up with USLMRA. They have all this stuff figured out so I guess a waiver would be a bad idea.
Went down that waiver road as head of the local rodeo club. We sought opinion of legal counsel on our waiver, and we were told that NO waiver relieves the organization of all liability, that it was imperative we seek insurance to cover the club.
Same holds true for any event you host, especially those where a certain element of risk is involved. It is still a good idea to have them sign one, as it does provide your legal counsel grounds for argument in any claim against the organization, but it is not going to protect you, nor any venue that you may put a race on for. Insurance is a must!!
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After 3 races,2 classes, better than 20 ready to race mowers. I let our rodeo committee deal with insurance and other legal stuff.
Hey MOWINMACHINE, I have an mtd if you want it, but you have to come get it. It's a running 12hp, driving mower!
Thanks KEVIN
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Hi there Chini,
Where abouts are you located?Maybe we can send emails back and forth or something. I don't mind driving out on a weekend. Probably be after X-mas and all that stuff. I appreciate the offer!
By the way, I never heard back from the dude who had the Sears. Also- my boss said he might be interested in joining too, so we might be able to get 5-6 people initially.
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You're off to a good start!
Get a mower or two built and get some exposure, it'll take off!
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Hope so. I think if enough locals here in cali knew about this, it'd be a big thing. I'm pretty good friends with a local hotrod shop. I might be able to get some sponsorship with them, maybe set up a display during their next car show.
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Excellent idea!!
It's all about exposure; you show it to enough people and get the word out there, you'll find interest! You might find a reporter for the local paper or TV station at the car show, if you do get in his face with the mower scene. If you got a cute kid, have him get in his face with dad's mower. Kids have a way with reporters! They look great on the news!! Learned that one hard way, back when my oldest boy was 6 he chose a TV Reporter out of 500 people to talk to at a fishing tournament we were in... We were on the news that night! :omg:
Tell him it's the fastest growing motor sport globally, right off the bat, so he takes notice. Might get a follow up article on the mower scene out of that contact, which would help getting it off the ground. I don't need to tell you how important that website is in this day and age, find a catchy domain name, one that's easy to remember, and get it up for reference in all news contact.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!
MOWINMACHINE, I am about 2-3 hours north of SAN FRANCISCO, just north of UKIAH, out hwy. 20. My phone # is 707-743-2359. Call me if you are interested.if we are lucky, maybe I could meet you at SR71MOPAR'S house to look at his track. (hint hint SR71MOPAR)We could also discuss rules and other stuff.
I have an in at the local rag (I just rebuilt her mower engine)
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I'm back. Been on the road lately. How does the Saturday,6th of January sound?
We could meet at the shop (where the track is) around noon maybe, and kick this idea around.
If its not raining, I'll fire up the barbeque.
Greg
707-327-6962
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I'm game for that, if mowinmachine is.Lets see if he is available.
KEVIN
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Hey guess what guys,I got myself a big ole' mower this weekend. I got a rather large Sears Craftsman II 5 speed tractor with an 18HP Briggs opposable head engine. It kind of looks like it has been through WW2, but believe it or not runs great and seems to have been taken good care of...mechanically. It is really simple and easy to work on and I think changing out the pulleys will be super easy too. There's a stacked pulley up front and a 7" one in the back. I'll just swap out the back with a 3 or 4" one and see what she'll do.[riding_mower_front.jpg][/img]
Anyhow, since I've got a machine, I'm more serious about actually doing this. Sorry, I was gone on a trip for the last 3 days. I was looking on the USLMRA web site, and it seems that we might have to notify them about starting a chapter if we were to do this?
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here's a 2nd picture of it.
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Hey thats great.
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Hey MOWINMACHINE,Any chance you could meet me in SANTA ROSA at SR71MOPAR's house? KEVIN
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Its on. Anybody in NorCal wants to race a mower, sign up here;
Lets get it started. RWYB. Let me or chini know. 1-06-07, 520 E. Todd RD. Santa Rosa, Ca.
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Yee Haa!! Way to go guys!! Wish I was gonna be out there to watch! Gonna be in SoCal later in the month, but I'm not sure when yet. Y'all have fun!
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Go ahead and sign me up! Thing is that my machine might be pretty crappy for awhile. I think I am going to start racing it stock, which means it'll probably be slower. The steering that came with this thing is a joke. Looks like they sandwiched the spindles between 2 seperate pieces of steel. I'm going to do some work on it this weekend. My brother comes out in a few weeks and when he does, we'll look into reinforcing the frame and look into steering options. By the way, I saw that Harbor Freight sells wire welders for 125 bucks. Will a wire welder do ok for something like this?
Anyhow, when do you think would be a good time to start up the season? Spring I assume?
Anyhow, guess that makes 3 of us so far. yay!
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arg! I didn't see your dates up there until after I posted. I'll see if I can get this thing in decent enough shape by then. were you all thinking of just having a meeting or actually test driving some machines?
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This started as a meeting, but if you bring your mower I'll race you.
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Sounds fine to me. My mower is far from being race-ready. It barely gets around as is!so I'll leave it at home. Anyhow, about what time on Saturday?
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I was thinking around noon.
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sounds good to me. I'll be sending you an email sometime soon so I can get directions and everything.
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Go ahead and sign me up! Thing is that my machine might be pretty crappy for awhile. I think I am going to start racing it stock, which means it'll probably be slower. The steering that came with this thing is a joke. Looks like they sandwiched the spindles between 2 seperate pieces of steel. I'm going to do some work on it this weekend. My brother comes out in a few weeks and when he does, we'll look into reinforcing the frame and look into steering options. By the way, I saw that Harbor Freight sells wire welders for 125 bucks. Will a wire welder do ok for something like this?
Anyhow, when do you think would be a good time to start up the season? Spring I assume?
Anyhow, guess that makes 3 of us so far. yay!
I have a harbor freight welder. It does not have a fan in it. It welds fine. It does not weld fine for long. When is starts getting warm for the "Thermo Protection" to kick in and shut the machine down, it starts sputtering.... then if you keep going, it starts splattering. I can kick it off just welding up the 2 long bottom braces in a build like the one George does. I tack it in good. and go back to weld it up, and that is when it kicks off. Do not get me wrong, it welds fine. It is just not heavy duty. Mine is the 100 amp version.
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you guys seen this site?
http://www.silentnoise.ca/dirtycanadians/
I kind of likes what they were doing. Seems like they're racing these pretty stock except for the pulley and seats. Seems pretty loose. Pretty cool mower too.
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Yeah... one of the guys there is a member here if I'm not mistaken. Been awhile since he's been on though.
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I will meet you both on Saturday the 6th at noon. I will have a copy of the rules I made for you both. I also will have to bring my ride and maybe my boys also.
Hey Mowinmachine, If you just turn the axle around, side for side, you will gain the proper caster (some) and it will turn better. I to have one of that style mowchine. If your's is really worn out, I will donate parts .
Let me know, KEVIN
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Great. Sounds like were off to a good start.
I have a few local guys interested too. Hoping for a good turnout.
Officially its just a meeting, but if it runs, bring it.
I have parts to donate as well. I'm all for just getting it going.
I wanna race.
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I've got a buddy with a couple fast a$$ karts he might bring for entertainment, like a Husky 250/5 speed, and a YT powered deathtrap. But dont get me wrong. If you see these things run, you'll know why two strokes annoy me.
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Hey MOWINMACHINE, Sears still has parts for these style mowers. I got the bushings to tighten up mine. It's much nicer to drive now.
If you go to the Sears web site, they have a parts section. Real easy to find them. Don't forget your model #, serial#, like I did. had to go out and dig through old paint to find them. KEVIN
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Hey Chini,
Are you using the stock setup on yours? and... yup.. I removed the model sticker from mine and got it on a piece of cardboard in the shop for future refrence. One thing I was wondering about is are we planning on having to keep the mower decks on or not? The one that came with mine weighs easily 75 pounds ( big sucker). I'd kind of prefer we not, but maybe we can all talk about that stuff when we get together this Sat. Anyhow, I put my "build" if you call it that- on the builds page. I also tried to get some more people interested by putting a post on craigslist but nobody replies. Oh well. Probably a good thing.
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MOWINMACHINE, If you go to the pics section, there is a picture of my mower. It's the pink one with balls.
It has a mower deck that has been lightened. The deck serves as a nerf bar to keep the wheel hopping down to a minimum.
We run ungoverned, so we get good speed in are modified class.
KEVIN
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Stock spindle has me worried.
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good god... those are some PINK mowers! I remember when I was looking at all the leftover spraypaint in my shop, I had a lot of that flourescent green paint. I almost painted it that color.
Anyhow, how has your stock spindles and steering held up? Honestly, I'm going to get better at welding and replace mine as soon as I can get some scrap steel and Acme spindles because even though I bolted mine through the frame, Mine looks like it would last about 2 races then break. Same with the brakes.
The one thing I was thinking about is if we have a few guys ( like you and me for example) who are starting out semi-stock, then maybe we should have a bigger track so that there won't be as tight a turn around the bends and put less stress on the steering, etc. Then if we later go with some more heavy duty hardware, we can adjust the track accordingly. The brakes one mine are pitiful and really just slows the mower down a bit. heck- it wasn't even connected when I got it ( which is why I ran into the side of my shed!)
The more I research the parts and procedures to replace the brakes and steering, it looks pretty straightforward. I hope 71Mopar's is modified because I'd like to get a good look at one up close to see how it'd done.
Anyhow, you bringing yours out on Saturday? Mine's in pieces all over the shop, so it's gonna stay home this time.
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The Craftsman mower has 3/4" spindles unlike most others. I have had no problems with the spindles or steering. Mine is tight though. I did not have any brakes either, so I put a hydraulic disc brake on the left rear axle. My transaxle is locked also.
I am bringing it on Saturday. See you then. KEVIN
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Hey Kevin, how do you lower it with stock spindles?
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Show you on saturday. You can eyeball it all you want, then.
KEVIN
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Hey California guys,
Cheep mower here. Little on the small and underpowered side (12HP) but it's only $25. He's in Santa Rosa.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/tls/257530520.html
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Ya, it did. I had a lot of problems finding a riding mower period because for one, few show up on craigslist, nobody in the East Bay has a yard big enough to mow, let alone mow with a riding mower, and if any mowers showed up that were cheap ( like that $25 one) they sold instantly. I only got mine because the owner had 2 guys flake on him before me. It's too bad because back in NC, EVERYONE has at least 2 or 3 of these things and I got free ones all the time.
Anyhow, I am going to bring my frame with me to the meeting tommorow. Maybe some of you guys could show me some pointers for building mine. See ya'll at noon!
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I'm looking for pointers too. My main mower is way more of a tractor than a racer. It has snow chains on it.
I've told a whole bunch of people about tomorrow, so there should be a decent turn out. We should have just about every type of motorized contraption you can dream of.
I'm Definately bringing the BBQ.
I told everyone to bring the kids. And helmets. Dont have enough of those.
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(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/sr71mopar/th_kid.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/sr71mopar/kid.jpg)
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Hey SR71MOPAR, My son and I had a good time talking and riding yesterday. He was really happy to see himself on the computer!
I am going to put on belt guides and check my belt alignment. I'm hoping to stop any further belt problems. You should have got on it for the ride. KEVIN
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That was great. Your son really knew how to handle that mowchine.
I learned alot looking at your mower. Now I can"t wait to get mine together. I really appreciate the engine too.
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Hey Chini,
Thanks for bringing your mower yesterday. It gave me some good ideas. I liked the idea of using a motorcycle brake setup. One of my buddies runs a motorbike shop over here and might have a few junker brake calipers sitting around, so I'll just use one of those. Picked me up a pedal and bicyle brake handle at the flea market today too. Still waiting on pulleys.
Anyhow, had fun meeting everyone yesterday. There aught to be some reeeeeeal interesting looking mowers coming out from everyone!
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Hey California mower guys,
Here's a somewhat cheap 18HP opposed head briggs Craftsman just like mine. Looks like it is in decent shape too.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/tls/259219331.html
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guys thats a horizontal shaft opposed ;)
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Hey SR71MOPAR, My son would like to know if you have any more pictures of him on the track? He would like to show them to his teacher.
The one picture you posted is very small also. If they could be made larger, it would be great. Thanks KEVIN
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Sherry took some great pics of him tearing that track up.
I saw one with both front tires in the air. I'll put them on disc.
This is one of my favorites:
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that's awsome
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Hey Greg, thanks for posting the pics. Garrett will be happy. Tell your wife she took nice pics.
Are you going to tell us about your racing mower build? Just curios to know how it is going. And when we are going to have a test and tune day? Garrett and I and maybe some of the other guys would like to come to your practice. Would be some fun! KEVIN
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Hey ca. guys, I stood my mower up and found that the jackshaft bushings were gone. That is the problem with it throwing and eating the belts. I will be going to the bearing house to see about putting bearings in it. Will tell you how that goes. KEVIN
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My actual mower build hasnt gotten too far yet. I got distracted playing with engines.
I still havent made up my mind which mower I want to build. I dug my late 90's craftsman out, and was thinking about building that one. It sounds like Seth will have his done before me.
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Ha ha Mopar, I doubt I'll finish before you. You gotta remember that you guys have a lot more experience putting mechanical things together. I'm still just figuring this out as I go along and screwin up all the way. Like yesterday for example: I spent a good part of my holiday driving around getting belts. Took me 3 trips before I realized that I had measured the length of my belt with the clutch pushed in. DUH! So... I ordered a couple of the right sized ones online since nobody around here had them.
It also took me all weekend just to figure out what the deal was with brakes. I haven't ordered them yet, but the Acme Mowersports guy has 3/4" ID hubs with eyelets for rotors.Those will push the wheels out a little further too so it will be more stable, plus the rear wheels might be smaller too. So if you decide you want a bolt-on brake solution, I'll let you know how this goes with mine.
By the way, is there a place out there where you're at that sells tires and Hubs? I'm thinking about making a run either to tractor supply or Co-Op if they have them out there and get my wheels and stuff.
The only thing I did this weekend was mount a gas throttle lever.
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I go to Sebastopol Bearing and Hydraulic for all my belts, pulleys, clutches, bearings, and sprockets. They have a ton of stuff on the shelf.
Cost a bit more than web prices, but I usually get what I want.
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Sounds cool. Might have to check that place out this weekend and get some stuff.
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If you decide to go on Saturday give me a call. I need some stuff too.
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Hey CA guys, Here's a super-Nice Alice Chalmers lawn mower on craigslist. Looks very well built and heavy-duty. Sure wish I'd seen this before I got mine. GREAT price on it too.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/263797813.html
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Reckon you could email me your cell? I might be heading out there to look at tires and belts.
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Hey guys, I have scheduled a meeting of the minds(rodeo committee) about insurance,race dates, and saftey issues. It is going a be next week(hopefuly they confirm quickly). So as soon as i know something I will let you know. Would like to see 1 race a month,possibly a special event or two. I am still woking on Willits for one race there. I also thought about contacting the Fortuna car/ tractor show people about a race there as well. They have antique tractor pulls, so i think it would be really easy.
KEVIN
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Hey Kevin,
that sounds great. Thanks for doing all that footwork. I too would like to see more regular races. (otherwise I've got a sort of worthless mower sitting in the garage) Let me know if you think we might need a site or something and I can whip up something for the club. Ordered brake and hub parts today, so hopefully have the mower somewhat race-ready in a few more months or less.-Seth
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Chini, if there is anything I can do to help let me know. I can bug people on the phone. Mower racing could take off around here.
How about Petaluma Raceway? 3/8's might be long for a mower, but I heard they are gonna build a short track on the infield since the baseball thing didnt work.
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Oh really? KEVIN
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Hey Greg,
I agree that I think Mower racing could be big here. I called Acme mowersports the other day to order some hubs and he asked me if there was some club starting out here because I was the 7th guy from California to call that week. So unless it happened to be everyone in our group, then there must be a lot of guys getting into it.
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i live in santa rosa, ca
i see sr71mpoar everyday
yeah the petaluma racetrack i thing is to big for lawnmowers
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Had a good score yesterday. Picked up an antique rear engine Hahn Eclipse LTD 500. Never heard of it before.
The mower is a rusty tank, but it came with a good Peerless 600. Just what I needed.
Also came with a semi complete 8 horse, if anyone around here needs parts.
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Hey Greg,
I agree that I think Mower racing could be big here. I called Acme mowersports the other day to order some hubs and he asked me if there was some club starting out here because I was the 7th guy from California to call that week. So unless it happened to be everyone in our group, then there must be a lot of guys getting into it.
I must say I think you guys are doing a heck of a job getting mower racing together in your neck of the woods (or side of the country)...
From asking around to getting together to promoting some venues to helping each other out with parts...The whole picture shows what the mower racing community is all about...
And then a a few mower calls to Acme and then he'll mention to the "other" seven guys out there...and pretty soon you got twenty Mowchines "available"
Then see what you can do for starting an "association chapter" either USLMRA or ARMA or perhaps some karting group to get umbrellaed under their insurance and the promotional outlets available......Just keeps getting bigger and better...
Thumbs up to you guys....:thumbsup:
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Hey Greg,
That mower look like this one? Weird looking mower. Love the handlebars on that thing.
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Thats it. It is pretty weird looking. And very heavy.
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Looks like a mower my uncle had for years.
Actually, now that you're on here,I was wondering if that place you mentioned that sells belts, pulleys and stuff also sells wheels and tires. I think my hubs and brakes will be here this week, so I might need to head out there and get some wheels. I could bring along the hubs and rotor to make sure the rims fit it. Do they sell plate steel, or do you know of a good place out there as well? thanks!-Seth
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Yes, they have wheels and tires, but I'm not sure about their prices. I need to find a couple wheels also. There is a great surplus place down the road from the shop here with lots of steel, heim joints, and all kinds of stuff. Both places are closed on sunday.
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Greg,
Sounds cool. I might be heading out there this weekend if I get the parts. I'll give ya a head up and maybe we can go look at the stuff. Later!-Seth
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Here's a CHEEP vintage Sears riding mower for $75! If I had the room, I'd get it myself. But for the rest of the California guys, this is a pretty good deal.pretty beefy frame on these.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/tls/270151802.html
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Well guys, I finally had my meeting with the rodeo committe. Very productive meeting. They are willing to let me do what I need to.Willing to give space for a permanent track, with bleachers.
I still have to be proactive about making sure things are going forward. The secretary needs some proding to deal with the insurance,but I think this is a hurdle we can overcome.
I asked for one race a month,saturday afternoons,April thru October. I also wanted a play day. There was no objection to anything I wanted to do.
Fee schedule will be:$15 racers
$3?-5? for spectators
Most of this will be going towards insurance.
Can someone tell me what it costs with some other organizations? I am curious about this.Also, are you rewarded with trophies?
I look foward to getting my ducks in a row and having a schedule quickly. Play day in early April. Will keep you posted.
KEVIN
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Right on Kevin. Thanks for doing all that footwork. I'm starting to get pretty excited. Corey is off the hook. By the way, thanks for sending him that coil. It worked just fine.
I cant wait to race. I finally pulled the engine off mine so I can start the build.
I'm commited to building the Kohler. Are you gonna run that Intek twin? Hope it has a good tune up. 8)
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Hey you guys I've been reading your post. I like what I'm reading. It just takes time and it will all come together. My team mate and I started the DSLMRA and it has gown leaps and bounds. We race primarily go kart tracks as a lawn mower class. We are covered under WKA insurance. We have expanded into 5 classes of mowers this year. We will host the first ever lawn mower race at the Red Neck Games in Dublin, GA. To be later televised by ESPN. Our entry fees are $30 for points races and $20 for non points races. The $20 goes back to the winers 100% 1st 50%, 2nd 30%, and 3rd 20%. the other $10 goes to the championship pot for the end of the year. I hope this thing takes off for y'all, and the next time I'm out that way I will have my mower and hopefully I can meat y'all and have a race. I have family that live in Redwood City, CA. and I might make it out there this year or next. I wish you guys the best.
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Dude, Redwood city is 3.5-4 hour south of me. Mowinmachine is in Alameda,ahop,skip,and jump away. I hope you can come see our circus.Do you give trophies? Do you get a title sponsor.Or at least a partial sponser?
Thanks for the thumbs up, KEVIN
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I live in Alabama, My Mom and Dad live in Nevada, 62 Miles east of Reno. As for sponsorship. One of my sponsors is Mr. Graphics, and he also does our championship trophies. This year we are going all out. Our 1st place trophy will be a 6', 2nd place 4' and 3rd place 2'. On March 3, we will host our first race of the year. It will be at Talladega, across the street from the supper speedway. Not only are we having 100% pay back but the track is providing all of the trophies 1st through 3rd in all classes. I always though trying to get sponsorship was hard to do. But really all you have to do go and talk to people and tell them what you do and what what kind of exposure you have and how you can advertise for them. Right now my biggest sponsor is Wurth Service Supply, out of Indiana. and they realize how much we travel between Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and Ohio for the nationals this year alone. Best thing is to start with local business that are in the area. Start small then work on the bigger fish. LOL. The worst thing that can happen is that they say no. Put there name on your mower, trailer, have a banner made and display it in your pit area. If you have a web page put there business card on it. Keep them informed of what you are doing for them. The old saying goes keep your sponsors happy. If you go to www.dslmra.zoomshare.com you will see how we have ours set up as well as our forum. I hope this helps you guys out.
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Well guys, I finally had my meeting with the rodeo committe. Very productive meeting. They are willing to let me do what I need to.Willing to give space for a permanent track, with bleachers.
I still have to be proactive about making sure things are going forward. The secretary needs some proding to deal with the insurance,but I think this is a hurdle we can overcome.
I asked for one race a month,saturday afternoons,April thru October. I also wanted a play day. There was no objection to anything I wanted to do.
Fee schedule will be:$15 racers
$3?-5? for spectators
Most of this will be going towards insurance.
Can someone tell me what it costs with some other organizations? I am curious about this.Also, are you rewarded with trophies?
I look foward to getting my ducks in a row and having a schedule quickly. Play day in early April. Will keep you posted.
KEVIN
Here in ND we run USLMRA Rules and thus NKA insurance through USLMRA. Event fees are as follows:
- $20 entry for the USLMRA racers at all events
- Non-Racers pay an extra $10 for one day membership of $35 for full membership in addition to the $20 entry fee.
- Our organization doesn't take gate, that is up to the Venue, however most who do charge, charge $3 - $5 a head.
- Local Trophy Company offers a break on price of the trophies so we do get a little bigger trophies than some, but nothing like those Michael suggests above however.
- Not sure where we're at for insurance this year, I can however look into it for you if you'd like.
-- Most clubs racing at numerous venues charge the venue a fee for the racing, the fee goes toward trophies, insurance, and administrative fees with the remainder going to the racers to help defray travel expense. You may want to devise some formula of pay out to help those that are traveling long distances.
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Hopefully Denis or Darrin Will chime in and correct any misinterpretation I may present here, but...
In WILMRA (and a few other LCs I'm aware of) the "Hosting Venue" usually picks up the whole tab... Which is $2,500 to $3,000 depending on date chosen and when...
That goes to the LC to cover Trophies (12" to 30"), Announcer, Head Flagger, Corner marshals, Counters (or transponder rental), Head Tech, and Track Steward, Radios, and Insurance, and USLMRA fees.....
We don't charge racers to enter, do have a minimal pit pass for friends and relatives, and pay out a bit to help cover "long range" traveling expences...We provide a "quality" well run show of 40-50 mowchines for 4-5 hours Banners, and track set up and take down help..
The Venue then provides a decent track surface (preparation and bales) to run on...(a couple townships have even build "purpose built" permanent lawn mower race track facilities)
The Host venue then charges a gate fee and collects proceeds from food and vendors...Depending on how the "Host" promotes the race, we generally draw crowds of several hundred and it ends up a win-win situation for all involved...
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I think everything you said was right Squidd , the only thing I know we don't do is promise a # of racers . We do tell them that if scheduled far enough ahead and on a double header weekend that they will potentially have a very big driver turn out .
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we don't do is promise a # of racers
Correct..I was just going off our "average" turnouts...
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I understand that Squidd , just didn't want them to promise a # of racers and have that come back and hurt what they are working on getting going.
By the way , Great job picking up the ball and running with it . that kind of stuff will help you out alot in the process of getting a LC together and haveing a great time with a bunch of great guys .
GOOD LUCK !!!!!!!
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I thank you guys for the input. I'm trying to look at all the options I can. I want to keep it simple as I can for now. I'm learning as I go so I really appreciate the help.
Can you tell me what it takes to become a chapter of USLMRA or ARMA? Thanks agian KEVIN
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Hey Kevin,
Thanks so much for all of your hard work. It sounds like you're really getting things off great. I'm about 50% done with my machine and hopefully will have it done in a month or 2. I posted a number of notices in local directories looking for people that are interested in doing this. I got 3 replies, but they are sort of luke-warm. We'll see if they actually go through. Anyhow, I was wondering if you happened to have digital copies of the racing pics you took. I was thinking we aught to get some images and stuff together to make a web site. That way when we have events and stuff, we can have a site we can refer people too. maybe even a sign-up section? Anyhow, just a thought. Thanks again Kevin!-Seth
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Chini... I've e-mailed Bruce Kaufman to see what's required for USLMRA Charter, one of us will get back to you shortly.
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Chini...
Bruce stated he'd like to speak with you in person about getting a Local Chapter together in California, said he's been wanting to get one off the ground out there for quite some time now. He asked that you please contact him at your earliest convenience... USLMRA Office number is (847) 729-7363. Not sure if you'll reach Bruce there, but they can get word to him or give you a direct phone number for him.
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Seth, good to see you and your brother today. We should head up to Potter Valley some day soon to check out the track and get some rules clarified.
Hey Kevin, I got one more guy for modified. I'm trying to get 4 mowers running out of the shop. 2 stock, and 2 modified.
Team Preferred Charters.
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Hey Greg,
Same here. Thanks for the wheels and cable. One of the wheels fit great, the other might need a little reaming to squeeze on. Anyhow, I think your idea of having a monthly meeting would be ideal, especially if everyone building their mowers can bring them to the meetings so we can see if everyone is on the right page. Interesting that this club looks like it might be almost all Craftsman mowers. See ya later-Seth
Oh ya, almost forgot. We need to figure out what sort of axles we're allowed to use, whether it is stock or heavy-duty. The rule for that in the list seems a little vague. I'd prefer using heavier axles and spindles if we're going to be racing at faster speeds since it would be safer, but if everyone says we have to use stock, then I'll just reinforce the heck out of mine then.
By the way, what do you think would happen if you were to weld the seams that are on the ends of the stock axle holding the spindles solid? I'm sure they're spot-welded in the center for a reason, but that seems like a bad failure point if we wind up having to use stock axles/spindles.
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Beefing up the ends of the axle is highly recommended. I was thinking about welding a strap or gusset around the end. I'm probably going to buy a new one to start with from sears. They are only like $30. For that price, its not worth rebushing the old one.
Its funny about everyone having Craftmans. I just picked another one yesterday.
Super clean w/ a 19 horse opposed with a 6 speed. Needs a starter. Paul is gonna race that one.
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I'm going to wait a bit before I do anything because I have that Acme axle on it's way. ( too late to cancel it) If I can use it, I'd prefer to do that. If not, I had a few ideas too on how to reinforce the stock one. I was thinking about getting some super-thick washers that I used to sell for earthquake reinforcement, cut them in half and weld 2 or 3 up and down the ends.I was also going to weld a long strap down the whole length of the axle. I think I could resell the Acme axle on here if I have to.
As far as Craftsmans, well I think that's a California thing. I think it might be because Home Depots haven't been around here as long. People back home got their mowers from Wal-Mart, Lowes, or Depot. Most of these are MTD's and Murrays. The Murrays were kind of the cheap-o mowers. I had one myself and trashed it in 3 years.
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Hey guys, be carefull of welding the axles on your transmissions. It's OK to weld up the spider gears, but I wouldn't weld on the axle out side of the transmission housing. You see those axles are case hardened on the out side and soft on the inside. If you weld on it, it will cause a weak point at the weld and it will snap after prolong use in racing. I have personally seen 3 axles brake at the weld points. One was a real bad accident. If it weren't for the guard fence the mower would of landed in the stands. Luckily the driver walked away. Pays to have all of your safety gear. We only allow shaft locking collars to secure the rims. They work well and they won't move. A stock 3/4" axle will hold up just fine. Just keep your sidewall to sidewall at 38".
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Well, we were talking about the front axles. We are just now getting our machines built, and one rule in the list is a little vague, which is in regards to the front axle- whether we're using stock or can install a built racing axle. If we have to use the stock, then we are going to have to be creative and reinforce them heavily.
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If you have to "get creative and reinforce heavy" just to get them to work and be safe...you might as well allow "racer fabricated" axles (whether purchased or owner built)...
Then have a decent tech standard for quality control...
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Kevin, hope you dont mind me using pics of your mower.
The first two pictures are how chini did his front axle.
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This is what it looks like to begin with.
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I thought it was very effective and simple. Plenty strong and uncomplicated.
Our rules state
"Front spindles are to be L or J type and 5/8" min. diameter."
"Front axle may be reinforced."
Thus, the 8" frame height.
I think the reason for this rule is to keep it doable for a larger number of people.
This is my first race mower, so simple is OK with me.
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Well guys, My intention was to keep this whole deal cheap for the purpose of gaining mower count. The stock front axle will hold up just fine if you weld it in place.Think about how much is actually sticking out, not much. I've beat the crap out of mine with no problems. And i just keep on beat'in! My son and I have alot of "testing time" on our mowers.It's fun to go race and teach him how to block and push without any contact. It's not that he is scared of the contact, It's I don't want him to race like that. I was never a contact racer, and I am hoping he is not either.
And today I spoke with the rodeo committee secratary about the insurance thing. She has one quote of $1500.00 for a calender year. She is waiting on one more quote from another company. Should be tomorrow when she gets that call.I'm hoping this gets resolved quickly (very quickly). I am not sure how much of this we would be responsible for but I don't think it is much. I'm confident we can cover this in any event.
Greg I stopped buy your work today,but you already were gone.If you guys find any b+s twins, one of my 4-h kids needs one.
KEVIN
P.S. You could have used the clean pictures, GREG!
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A yearly due would take care of the premium. Could we use the insurance in different locations?
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I don't think so.
Hey Greg, When are we going to see more pictures of your stuff going forward? Hurry up, there's more "testing" on the horizon! KEVIN
I just E-mailed Bruce Kaufman from the USLMRA. Hope I hear back from him soon as well. I'm trying to keep the ball rolling ,guys. Can some one tell me how to get a hold of ARMA. I would like info from them as well. My computer won't let me in to there site.
Mowinmachine and Sr71mopar, if you would like to meet let me know. My wisdom is yours! HA HA!
707-743-2359 KEVIN
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My intention was to keep this whole deal cheap for the purpose of gaining mower count. The stock front axle will hold up just fine if you weld it in place.
I understand the intention, and it sounds like the majority of you guys are running craftsman, and will be fine with the unit shown,but not all mowers are built the same....
The heavy "U" chanel on my J.D. and the cast iron axle off my Rugg would have those beat all to heck, but..... I wouldn't feel safe running the flat stock piece that came on Samis Wizzard...
I'm just saying what works on one mowchine may not be a viable option on another...
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Quote on that insurance is way high guys! You won't pay anywhere near that through USLMRA or ARMA.
If you can't get into their website chini try their Yahoo Group - http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/americanracingmowers/
I think there is contact info there, you'll want to speak with Aaron Crowell.
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Hey Kevin,
Thanks for answering the question regarding the axle. So if I understand this right, we're not allowed to use an aftermarket axle? If so, then guess I'll go stock. If that's the case... anyone on here need an Acme axle at a discount?
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Hang on to that axle Seth. I have a feeling you may want it next year.
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Hey Greg,
I might just do that. I've sold 4 push mowers so far, so I've just about covered the cost of the axle. It is a nice axle too. I'll bring it next time we meet up.
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On the subject of insurance, the rodeo committee covers, the rodeo,drill team practice, team penning, team roping, trap shoots,and mower races. All the proceeds go to the school and sports programs.They are also non-profit. They/we support are little community.
We are also in the sue happy state of California.
I can probally get them to take care of trophys.
I joined the yahoo group so I could talk to the ARMA guys. Waiting to get confirmed so I can post.
More as soon as i get informed. Later guys KEVIN
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Whatever it takes, I'm in.
I got something done today. I reinforced my stock front axle.
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Can I race this? (maybe next year)
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Hey Greg,
What you're doing with your axle there looks like something I was thinking about doing. What are those things welded to the top? Bearings? and as far as racing that yellow mower- heck ya, that thing is built like a Sherman tank.
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They're steel flange bushings. The original sloppy bushing was one piece and welded into the ends. I'm going to try to get it welded in the frame today.
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well, that looks like it aught to hold up just fine. I'm going to get working on mine all done up and welded in by end of the weekend.
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I'm trying to get something done everyday. The last of my engine parts should be here next week. I already have pretty much everything I need for the transaxle, pulleys, idlers and stuff.
I want some time to test this thing out before the real racing starts.
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Same here. I've got about 90% of the parts I need. I plan on assembling the axle and brakes along with the wheels and transaxle to the frame. That'll leave the steering and putting everything back together, which as many times as I've taken this thing apart aught to be about a day of good work. I expect lots of problems until I get er' dialed in.
I tell you what, I can't wait until I stick the completed mower in the back of the truck and head out there. Just imagine some volvo driving berkeley person seeing a racing mower. Bet that'll have them scratching their heads.
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Just to make it interesting Corey (crocco58) is gonna run an early 90's MTD in stock class.
If I'm reading the rules right, he can throw his bone stock 31 inch Intek on there, and maybe switch the transmatic for a peerless 930. What do you think Kevin?
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kevin their site and new forum is www.golawnmowerracing.com
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Hey Kevin,
Just wanted to say again that I really appreciate all the hard work you've been doing towards getting the paperwork worked out. How's the insurance thing coming along?
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Well I spoke with Aaron Crowl, and he is sending me the paperwork for becoming a ARMA chapter. Other than that I have not gotten much further. I hope to review the appilcation, and rules to see if we can fit. As he described, there could be many benifits to being a local chapter. So I am still working on it.
Tell corey to go for it. Just make it look stock.
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I got the rest of my engine parts today, and figured out the machine work.
I hope this little 26 incher runs like I think it will.
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Hey Greg, Kevin... other CA guys. I had a question about what we're allowed to do with our mower decks. I've seen a few guys here who are just chopping off the ends of their decks and welding them to the foot rests. This seems like a pretty simple solution. But before I get to chopping away, would this be legal for our chapter? Just checking on what's allowed... not allowed. Thanks guys-Seth
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Hey Seth, mount the solidly under the mower. Keep it two inches above the ground. That's the rule.
I will be making the schudule tonight. Look's like playday around the first of the month. :dancing: So "get er dun".
I might try to get a general meeting together so every one knows what I expect. Let you know about that.
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You guys are doing an excellent and very professional and organized job in getting together and promoting a real race program/club/organization in your area...
Hats' off to you guys and a couple Karmas as well..!! :thumbsup:
So often we hear "There is no racing in my area ...and then no one does anything about it so a couple months later we hear.."there is no racing in my area"...:roll:
You guys have put some serious effort forth and will surely be rewarded with an excellent growing racing program in California...Keep up the good work, this thread should be an inspiration to any other local group looking to start some sanctioned, safe, insured, organized racing in their home area...
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I have to agree with Squidd , You guys have doon a great job !!!!!!
I hope everything continues to go good for you guys and wish you all the best of luck !!!!!!!
I do have a question , are you guys only allowed to run j hook style spindels ( is that why your doing your axel like you are ?? sr71mopar ) are are you allowed to run cart style front end with hubs ?
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Thanks for the kind words. The credit really goes to chini.
Yes, we have to keep the stock front axle and J or L type spindles.
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I thank you guys for the support! On a good note, the rodeo committee is going to buy the one year term insurance this week. I have made a schedule and will be posting it as soon as I get approval from them. :woohoo:
I am still looking into becoming an ARMA chapter though. I only have one problem with it. I started this mower racing for my 4-h kids and I need for them to race. Most groups say no one under 16 allowed to race. To me a minor is a miner. Plenty of kids under 16 are racing go-karts, motorcycles, 4-wheelers, and cows in competitive events all over the country. Some are even racing full-sized cars.
Any how I have a call in to Aaron to talk about it. Hope it turns out ok.
KEVIN :woohoo: :woohoo:
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I think you'll find that ARMA much like the USLMRA, does allow kids to race at the LC level Chini, they simply don't have a sanctioned class for kids to race on a national level. It's pretty much left up to the LC to decide what rules are required in the Junior classes.
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Hey there Kevin,
That sounds great! Again- my hats off to you for the footwork. On another note, I had an idea about possibly designing and printing out some flyers for the event when we get it all settled and everything. I'm not sure that people out here would drive that far to see a race, but the term " Lawn mower racing" would probably get their attention. So who knows. I did place some notices on a few local lists. But so far nobody has replied back.
Also- Another technical question: is the Maximum deck height 2", or can we mount it higher? Just checking. Thanks for all the hard work!-Seth
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Thats great news Kevin.
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hey kevin me and greg got a 12 horse briggs for you
do what you want with it
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Kevin Kids are allowed to race with ARMA chapters. Go to http://btmra.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,51.0.html and check the Bama-Tenn Rules We are the TN ARMA chapter. You can use these rules simply change BTMRA or BAMA-TENN to your name and go with it. I will help you with anything you need so just let me know. I have spoken with Aaron and I believe its all a matter of paperwork at this point. SO in other words welcome aboard and I think you will find this to be one heck of an Association. Its racer and family oreintated. Great job so far on all you guys have accomplished so far. Ever need to talk pm me and I will give you my numbers. Work number is 615-446-6807
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I tried to call Aaron again today, just got to leave a message. If I cannot get him on the phone I will be calling you George. I have the support of all my "consultants" or "board of directers" if you will. I still am going to try a general meeting. I should see the prez of the rodeo committee tonite at the 4-h meeting. I will try to get approval of my schedule then. Not a great hurdle, but needs to be done. KEVIN
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If theres anything I can do just let me know.
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I didn't read all the replies ,but I race in southern Oregon and there's someone in the Redding or Red
bluff area wanting our group to come down for a race in June. They have a website but I don't know what it is right now but I'll check into it for you. I hope you get your group going down there.
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Kevin sounds like you are doing everything you need to do. Aaron drives a truck he is sometimes in areas his phone doesn't work. Be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day. But don't hesitate to call me if you need help with anything.
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Kevin great job on getting it going. :D
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Kevin the race is the 7th,8th, and 9th of June in Red Bluff Ca. The event is called Redneck Olympics.
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Hey 4wheeler,
How long have those mower races been going on in Red bluff? Is it a free for all kind of race where anyone with a mower participates, or is it one with USLMRA type machines? I've been to Red Bluff a few times and it isn't super far away for me. About 2 hours.
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Hey Mowinmachine
I think this is just a one time race. It is in with 4x4 races etc. They said there might be some money in it. They will go by our rules. Singles run together, Twins together, Any cart tires have to run in the outlaw class. Not a lot of rules. You might go to the southern Oregon Lawnmowers racers :censored:. website. I'm still not sure they are going to have the race. They have to get races to commit to come?????
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You need to keep us posted. If this is going to happen ,we would really like to know. Not to far for me either. If you want give someone my e-mail adress. It's chini@netscape.com. I will spread the news around to my guys. Thanks KEVIN
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Hey california guys:
Mower race meeting Saturday March 17 @12:00 here in Potter Valley. Call me for directions@ 707-743-2359.
I will tell you what I expect, and we will dicuss the rules we have adopted.
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Corey, Paul, and I will be there.
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Hey Kevin,
I'll be there too. I'm bringing my dad too, who's going to be visiting. Should we bring our mowchines? See ya there. I'll call you later this week to figure out how to get over there. Also- Greg, do you want me to bring over those extra big wheels I've got? Not sure if you were going to have your truck. later guys.
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Kevin
we might just have an other racer. he has a cool looking mtd too.
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Well I did some digging and found out that Pappy Wishbones race is all full. :cry: I was hoping to have/get to a race there.Oh well maybe next year.
Kevin
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Look into Northern California for the half-time show races at the fairgrounds. 8)
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Well, we had our rules meeting and it went well. We are going to be ready to go for are playday on the 7th of April. All questions were answered, plenty of mower talk.
We disscussed show fillers and special events. I think we will have a stick horse race at the rodeo, and possibly tricycle races for all the little kids and possibly some crazy adults. I want to keep the whole family involved.
We also talked about after the race BBQ's slinging some, and general good whine down time.
So we are off to good start as a group.
We need a moto like: Just for the fun of it all! Good times ahead.
Schedule to follow shortly.
Kevin
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Just for the fun of it all! Good times ahead.
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Hey guys,
Just wanted to say that I sure had a good time out there in Potter valley on Saturday. Anyhow, got my deck cut in half and welded back together. Get it mounted tommorow and from there, it's reassembly time! see ya'll this upcoming April 7th for the "play date."
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Hey potter valley guys,
I sorta fooled around with an idea for a logo for our group. I whipped this out in 5 minutes. The mower isn't a good profile for the concept. I need a good side shot.but you get the idea. I'd be happy to keep working at it and see about printing us out some vinyl ones if you all like it. Anyhow, here's the design concept.
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just a suggestion, but i think it'd be cooler if you would do a profile of a racing mower instead of a stock one like that, and yea, a side shot would look better...
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look good seth. That would be cool to have something to put it on.
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Ya, I know a side profile would look better. I just dug that one up on google.Looks confusing. I was going to take some side shots of my machine today and try that out.
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Sounds like a plan to me.
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Your tech person is a graffics layout designer. She is soley responsible for the layout and design of our local rag. I think it would be a grand idea for you to to talk about this. She will be availible on playday. Kevin
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I'll be there...even though I might be pushing my mower around the track.
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Hey Greg,
You going to be at the shop on Saturday, say around 11ish? was seeing if it'd be allright to bring out the mower for some testing and stuff. thanks!-Seth
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Yep, that sounds like a plan. See you tomorrow.
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see you tomorrow too seth.
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Hey Seth,
Stick that together with the schedule. I need some color to make it stand out on bill boards. Also add stick horse race on the date of May 28.
Thanks Kevin
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Hey guys, A guy named Matt contacted me today. He's from Sacramento and interested in racing with us. So I hope the word is getting out about us. I hope he calls me for info, we'll have to see.
Kevin
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Nothing wrong having more racers. :D
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Hey guys, what time we meeting on Saturday? 11- 12 oclock or something? Also- what was the name of the road that the rodeo is on? I forgot! thanks and see ya'll there.-Seth
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Playday starts at 12:00 on Old Wagon Rd. .
Did you get a chance to add that logo to the schedule, Seth?
See you there, Kevin
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Hey Kevin,
The logo is on the list of stuff to do. I also think we need a site of some sort. Nothing fancy, just a site people can go to if they want to learn about schedules and races. I was going to bring my video camera and digital camera and take pics and send them to a few newspapers here to stir up some interest. Not sure if people will drive out that far, but it's worth a try. see you tommorow!
PS: we're bringing some food along.-Seth
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Looking forward for tomorrow. I think we are taking 2 mower tomorrow.
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uh-oh... looks like rain tomorrow.Anyhow- be prepared to be very muddy if that happens...
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Rain is OK. I'll bring some goggles. None of our mowers are race ready yet, but we'll be there anyways. This will be a good chance to scope out some other mowchines. I'm sure there be some ideas I'll want to borrow.
I got the belt too, Seth. I had to get a plain old Gates A87. AX87 was a special order.
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that's ok greg. I'll pay you for it tomorrow. That track didn't look very muddy, so maybe it won't be too bad. See ya there!
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I had a blast today. I didnt even bring a running mower.
I learned a few things. First off, Kevins mower is the one to beat.
Second, a bone stock Kohler CV14 is a torque monster.
Third, a 10 horse in a good chassis is nothing to under estimate.
And most of all, the most powerful engine dont mean anything compared to the best chassis.
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And most of all, the most powerful engine dont mean anything compared to the best chassis
Now your getting it..:thumbsup:
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I'm so glad you guys had a great time. Is Corey still grinning from ear to ear?
Have a nice Easter. Kevin
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Yes I would. :D
Thanks for letting me drive your mower.
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Hey guys,
Sure had one heck of a good time Saturday. Look forward to the 'big race' on the 28th. I picked me up a nice kevlar belt at TSC on the way home and now my mowchine is humming right along. So hopefully it'll stay that way. Greg- you got the same pic that I did. But here's one of mine anyway.-seth
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Here is what it started as.
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Here is what it is now
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I'll be ready.
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hey guys,
those mowers look good! So.. let's see.. we now have 9 mowers alltogether? That ain't bad at all. I might be stopping by your all's place on Saturday. I did some minor modifications to my mowchine. Just making sure that's ok.-Seth
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I will be at the shop on Saturday. I finally got my axle machined for the 600. If everything goes well my mowchine should be making its first laps around the track.
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That was a sweet looking transaxle you had that I saw last time. I'm curious about how it is going to do. I just got through lowering the seat on mine. Taking those springs and mounts lowered it around 4.5 inches. I also welded in a nifty seat support that the guy with the 10 HP Sears had. I just need to glue down the carpet. I need to take the tranny apart do it can get welded. see ya later-Seth
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I have some nickel rod here, so if you have it apart we can weld it up.
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allright then. I duly appreciate the help greg-Seth
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Here is what it started as.
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Here is what it is now
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Hope yor build rules allow that major rear fender relocation!
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Yes the do, like this one
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Good...cause that wouldn't fly with USLMRA!
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good thing we aint in USLMRA, cause pretty much all our machines would fail. I like all the variety in our group. Makes things more interesting!
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Just for some clarification I would like to point out that nearly all the mowers in our club (Potter Valley Lamnmower Racing) were built (or begun) under a set of outlaw rules.
Hence the strange combination of dropped fenders and stock spindles.
Right before the season began, chini hooked us up with ARMA. All members of our club are required to hold an ARMA membership.
All ARMA safety rules are enforced, but because of the situation, build rules are somewhat lenient.
Next year things will be differrent.
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Well said Greg.
As some of you from the Midwest and South see from our collection of mowers, we're just getting started this year. Remember that so far there hasn't been a California chartered organization yet so we haven't had the same level of hands-on experience nor have we seen many machines to get ideas from as people from other states where the sport is well established.Thus there will be some really different builds out there which I view as good so people can see what and what doesn't work. I will say I've already incorporated a few good ones that seemed to work well with some of our other members. As Greg said, we have someone who is a real stickler for safety and checks each of our mowers before each event. So we're off to a good start so far.
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Hey Greg,
Just a heads up that I was going to head over there on Saturday around 11-ish. See you then-Seth
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Hey Seth, have you had time to put together the schedule and your logo? I would like to hand out some flashy schedules. Thanks Kevin
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Hey you guys keep going as you are. I think y'all are doing just fine. The only way to really learn is by R&D. That is how my team mate and I started. I'm the one that said early on in this post that I use to live in Redwood City, and some day I will make it back out there. I would like to race with y'all. I'm glad to see that you went with ARMA. My team mate and I are strongly considering taking the DSLMRA, over to ARMA, also. I see that you are using there safety rules. But your builds rules aren't quite the same as there's. Did ARMA have any problems with this for the rest of the year and next year y'all be on line with them?
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We started off with outlaw rules, but we found it much cheaper to get insurance throught ARMA. So we will be switching to there rules. This is going to take some getting use to for some of the guys. Our tech inspecter is going to be on those not in compliance. But it will take a couple of races I'm sure. Most of the mowers are very close anyhow. Nobody is anywhere near the ride hieght rule. All of us are still running pretty close to stock hieght. Lowest mower is at 8" ride hieght.
As we build mower count they will be required to comply. It all just takes time. Kevin
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If your over 4" that's OK. Just don't go under. But get as close as you can for safety.
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Hey Kevin,
Well here's a few questions I wanted to throw around the group and see what the concenus was. My wife is going to visit her folks so I was going to do some design and web stuff this weekend.
Question 1: Do we want a standalone site or a myspace type site? Both have advantages: A myspace site would allow members to post things like pics, comments, and so on. The downside would be that it would look like a myspace page. A standalone site could be designed the way we wanted it to be. The bad would be that everyone would have to send me pictures and stuff. That or it could have a separate forum attached. It would also require us to buy some server space and a domain. Probably talking like $10 a month alltogether.
Question 2: Posters. I was going to make some for our races. I could then email them to all the members and they could put them up in their areas. Do you have some good 'action' pictures from some of the past events? Either that or I can take some at our first race.
Anyhow, all this stuff is pretty simple, but I wanted to see what everyone thought and what they would want to see. -Seth
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Personally I'd do a standalone with attached forum... in fact I did do that! www.ndlmra.com
See Bluehost.com - excellent hosting package, huge storage, huge bandwidth, multiple databases, forum setup is as simple as clicking a link or two in your admin-panel and naming a folder. Cost... $8/month on the annual plan, bi-annual plan $7/month.
Tech support is great from what I hear, haven't needed them personally, service is great otherwise! Frquent newsletters keeping you aprised of what's going on with service, notices any time there's a problem, or planned outage. Great host!!
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$7 is pretty cheap!How hard is it to stylize the forum you all use? I think all we need is a simple splash page that tells people about us, where we meet, and dates for the event. It'd be nice if we could actually sell tickets and allow the customer to print out their pass after they bought. But that'd be more complicated than I want to deal with. For the posters, I was thinking about making some and either having tear-off fringes with the name of the site so they won't have to remember, or post cards that I'd drop off at bars, returaunts and stuff. Probably be Black and White because color is costly.
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The first race is next weekend. I'm starting to feel the crunch.
We're trying to get 3 mowers done. We may have to settle for one or two, at least for the opener.
I decided at the last minute to go with a 700/live axle (RIP gokart). I'm shooting for 4.5-5" at the frame. I'm making C style spindles that will work with my reinforced stock front axle.
I might be showing up in primer.
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Dude I'm hope'in to see all ya. I"ll put you to work if you don't bring your mowers. But please burn the midnight oil and get them done. Mower count is always a good thing. Wish I could be there to help, but to far away.I don't care if they are really ugly, It's time to race!
Hows Seth coming with his modifacations? I"ll be glad to see all of you. Can't wait Kevin
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I cant wait either. I'm going with a peerless 600. I'm going to be ready for the race no matter what.
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Here we all are, working away on the racing mowchines...
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Hi Kevin and CA guys,
Here are a few things I have been working on. A poster and a logo. The text and info on these are generic and can be changed easily. I have not gotten the site together yet so the web site at the bottom might not be the one we have. I just put it on there so you could see what it'd look like. Might not have the site ready in time for this week, but that might be fine anyway since we're figuring out how to put the race together anyhow. I'll try. ANyhow, here's what I have. Once the right info is on there, you can copy this and print it on Black and White or color. The poster prints on a tabloid sized piece of paper, 11x17".
Oh ya- make sure I got the info right. I thought it was $5. If it's more, let me know-Seth
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Great job on the logo seth. It coming along great.
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Hey guys,
I was wondering what domain would be better?
www.pvmowerracing.com
www.pottervalleyracing.com
wasn't sure. if nobody has a preference, I'll just register one.
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I like the poster.
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Dude, that poster with your mower on it is the bomb! I like it a bunch. With the correct dates and web address it is just grand.
Kevin
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our official site is pvmowerracing.com
I just bought the name, so there is no site for now... yet.
Probably be a few days before anything will be up there. I will probably put a placeholder generic site that has dates, times, directions, and the cost of the event. Later it'll have all the fancy stuff. Anyhow, If anyone in Potter Valley has good clean directions from the Bay Area, I'll post them on the site. thanks!-Seth
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Well.... The site is almost done. There will be a home page with dates, a map, links on how to get there from various cities, and links to look at pics and videos. I also set up a forum that's more for us to send messages back and forth to each other. The only thing I am waiting for is to get a confirmation from the server I'm using. I'm not going to give the site away yet, but here's a sneak-peak of the opening loader for the page. Each page is around 55-65k, so some of you guys in potter valley dial-up aught to be able to see it pretty quick.
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Nice work on the website Seth. This weekend is coming soon.
I've been doing some work myself.
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Nice work on the site Seth.
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Well guys,
Here is the poster. I updated it brighter colors and with the right date and out a map on it. Unfortunately, the site will probably not be up until the end of the week, so it won't do us much good this time around. Anyhow, this poster is for a tabloid sized piece of paper which is a 11x17" size. It can be printed in black and white to save money or in color if you want. If you have the time, copy this image and print it wherever you live. Hope this helps-Seth
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I'll be ready for the race. Is it on Saturday or Sunday.
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Saturday. Be there or be square! Ya'll gonna have your mowchines ready? Can't wait to see Greg's.
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yeah i will. I just finished my brakes.
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Couple days and counting! Kevin
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Ok fellers',
The site is DONE. I had some pain in the rear technical problems, but it is up and running. For now I am site admin, so all email gets sent to me. I can add new people, but for now I'm keeping it simple. I can set members up with site email. My email is: seth@pvmowerracing.com
The site is : http://pvmowerracing.com/
see if there's problems which there probably is. Send an email so that I can see that it works.-Seth
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Love the new site seth. :+1: for you.
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One more thing: here's a postcard sized thing for the race. You can print these out in either black and white or color ( which looks nicer) and dump them at diners, gas stations, stores etc. They also have our site so people can bring them home and look us up easier since they'll have the site and card in their hand.
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I took my first laps around the parking lot today.
There is no way to explain the roar of the motor, the whine of the 700, and the torque. Kohler power, nothing like it.
I still have about a hundred details to tend to before Saturday morning, but I'll be there.
I can't stop smiling.
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I'm very interested in seeing how your live axle machine turned out. I bet that sucker is fast.See you all at 11:00 AM Sat!
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Tomorrow is d-day! Are you ready to race. I'm really close to ready with all that important stuff. I"ll be waiting your arrival. Earlier is better. See Ya, Kevin
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Our first race went OK, but not to many mowers. We had 2 Super Stocks, and 3 Mod-x's. Our grand stand was full of people though. I talked to a several people about new builds, so I'm hoping for more particapation in the future.
I spoke with the Rodeo secratary, and they agreed to a 60% pay out plus $100. So we will be having a purse at the Memorial day race, for the Mod-x drivers. So get it together to get paid to race your mower! Kevin
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Sounds like a winner to me. Good job.
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Sr71mopar,
I’m quite curious to see your lawn mower racer. From the way you describe it, it sounds like there is a lot of ingenuity and hard labor in it. Do you have any Photo’s of it?
A/P_RACER
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Kevin,
Sorry that we could not make it. Greg had to work but the mower are done. My engine got blown up yesterday and i hope i can get 18hp Briggs twin for a friend soon. Talk to you later. Also who won the race?
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well here ya go guys. Some pictures from Saturday's race. I made it through the heat race, but my mower gradually began to lose power slowly over the course of the 2nd race. We all had great fun and there was a big turnout. Next race will have a rodeo, BBQ, dancing, and of course- lawn mower racing! What mower could you ask for?
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Sorry I couldnt make it. I'm taking vacation time for the next race.
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Ok CA guys,
Here is the poster for our May 28th race. I used last month's since we didn't use it anyway. I added our site, some more details for the directions, and the mention of the raffle for the mower. Take a look and make sure it is all ok. Then since we're early this time, save this to your desk top, go to Kinkos or something and print out as many as you think you'll need for your area and put them up in gas stations, eateries, and so forth. Thanks guys-Seth
Oh ya- when you print it, it is TABLOID size, 11x17 inches. Print in black and white or color. whichever you choose.
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Hey Seth, did you get the e-mail I sent you over the web site? I need you to modify the poster you made to say May 27 (sunday) And rodeo tickets are $7. Any questions let me know, Kevin
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No problem Kevin. Here's the updated poster. I'll update the site this weekend. I need to put last race's videos up. I did update the blog and photo sections.-Seth
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We had a great engineering session today. We put about 100 combined laps on the track. Practice was focused on line around the track and safe passing.
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Well looks like you are ready to go. Practice makes perfect so keep at it. What colors are those mowers going to be? Just so you know, I started tear down on my next victim. A beautiful MTD. I got my axle, hubs, brakes,wheels and tires, spindles, and some other stuff. For power I have a 40 cu. in.c Intek. So beware the game is on. I have to keep up the appearance of being the one to beat! I like talk'in smack!
I still have not fixed my steering on the pink one but I'll get to it. Hay season is here so time is going to run short for a while.
See you later guy's Kevin
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Forrest green, Imron.
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Yep. That was sure fun on Saturday. As I type this, it almost hurts to sit! I tell you what- that mower of greg's is pretty cool. I finally got mine running pretty well except that the carb was starving a bit. Got that taken apart and cleaned up, so other than a few little adjustments, I'll be fine. Corey's mower is doing pretty good too. Just needs a front engine pulley and he'll be good to go too.
And by the way, the site is now updated with new pics, video, and other stuff( correct prices)
www.pvmowerracing.com
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Hey guys, Are you ready to race? I have gotten the O.K. for you to camp out at the Rodeo grounds. So come prepared to have a good time. I am doing hay most of the week so time is going to be tight for me. I'm hoping to have time to repair mine. Arron is going to send me ARMA tee shirts, so I will have some for sale. If you have questions, E-mail me, Kevin
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Yup,
I'm ready to roll. I'm recovering from a really nasty case of food poisoning, but I'm sure I'll be all put back together by this weekend. I am going to be putting up posters for the event around here in Alameda. See ya'll Saturday!
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Mine is all sanded down getting ready to paint. I'm taking some extra days off this week just to make sure I get it done.
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Hey Greg
What color are you painting it? Anyhow, sorry I didn't make it out there Saturday. Was under the weather. Anyhow, yesterday I did mount a few weights under the left foot rest. So we'll see how that works. See you Saturday!-Seth
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As usual, I keep changing my mind. It will be one of the colors from a bus.
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Guess what guys, I got a big package from Amsoil yesterday and it was an official racing uniform. Pretty cool looking- all red white and blue with amsoil written all over it. It also came with a hat, 2 quarts of 0w-40 synthetic, and a big packet of information. Pretty impressive. So since we all signed up for the same sponsorship, that's what you can expect to get in the mail if you haven't gotten it already. I just I'm not the only guy on Saturday with the crazy looking outfit.
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Good deal and yes any member that joins ARMA will recieve that same package!!!!
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well, needless to day I was pretty amazed that I got all that stuff. The uniform and hat are actually pretty good quality.
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Yeah I got mine also.
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I haven't got mine yet. I hope to get it by friday. Then I will have it for the race.
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Well, are Memorial race was a ball. I hope Seth gets the web site updated with all new pictures/video quickly.
In the Mod-x class:
Sam tucker 1st
Dharyl Smith 2nd
Gary Gallo 3rd
In the Super Stock class:
Tyler Rockel 1st
Garrett Pierachini 2nd
Clayton Tucker 3rd
We also raffled off a race mower to pay for some tech tools and other supplies.
I also had a stickhorse race for the kids, which was a big hit. Great family fun, all day. Kevin
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Yup, The race on Sunday was indeed fun. My wife filmed the whole thing and you can watch it here- wrecks and mishaps and all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lvSmXf0WbQ
I lost a wheel and axle, but I've since got it put back together. The site will be updated in the next day or so. Uploading pics to our Ipix account today.
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I don't know when I've had that much fun.
The parade was great too. It's not to often a person gets to drive a race mower on a public street with a legitimate reason.
I've watched that video about a hundred times. I definitely have some improvements to make before the next race, to my mower AND my driving.
Sherry spent the rest of the day regretting not entering the powder puff race. She'll be in it next time.
Kevin gets a big thanks for all the work he puts into making it happen.
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Thanks Kevin for having a well organized event. I am glad i didn't get hurt going over the hay bail. I do have some work to do to my mower if I want a chance of winning next.
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That was the weirdest wreck. I watched the video a few times and it looks like me and greg ran into each other, his hood came off, and you ran into the hay bale. I ave no idea how you went OVER the bale either.Here's a still shot of you going over that bale. Kind of hard to see.
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I think I know what happened. I'd been trying to get past you for a lap or so. Well, I saw daylight on the inside, so I made my move. Didn't work the way I planned. I got pinched and climbed up your tire, then it just stacked up behind us. You got nailed in the left rear at least twice. That explains the broken axle clip.
I still don't know how Corey drove over the hay bail.
The only thing I know for sure is that race was a hoot.
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Ya, It was a blast. I just remember thinking after the 3rd accident that I hoped we would actually finish the race. I got that axle fixed. I welded the spider gears permanently to the axles. I just need more track practice, so if you're around this saturday I was going to see about driving around the track to get better. I am also wondering if we could make the track we have at PV bigger because it feels like we're driving in a continuous circle. Corey 'drove' over the bail. Guess he has an off road mower or something.
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Corey 'drove' over the bail. Guess he has an off road mower or something.
It almost looks like he was on the throttle the whole way. Neither he or his mower had a scratch, so he did something right. He built a ATLM and didn't even know it. :)
Lets plan for practice on Saturday.
Tell Lindy to come on up too, so her and Sherry can practice for the powder puff race.
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Corey never hit the brakes. I think he paniced and drove right over that darn straw bale! I thought that was pretty darn funny myself!
I was told that as you guys were rubbing and racing, ticket sales for the raffle mower went through the roof. we sold 50 tickets and made about 200.00 bucks for tech tools.
Kevin
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I can't wait till next month.
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:lmfao: You guys are having way too much fun! I do hope someone explained to those purchasing raffle tickets that driving over hay bales is not supposed to take place in the course of racing mowers. Gonna have to get that Corey an Evil Knievel cape! :D
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Ok folks, pvmower site now updated. Lotss of pics, videos, and stuff
http://www.pvmowerracing.com
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#1, you guys desperately need a bigger track
#2 why do all of you run craftsmans?
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I think it is because there are so easy to build. I think I spoke for everyone on that one. And I think it would be nice to have a little bigger track to any widen it up a little bit.
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Kevin is getting ready to build a MTD. Part of the reason for all the craftsmans is that is mostly what you find out here.
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I have actualy started the build. Chassis is getting along. I got steering shaft mounted. Need to get axles mounted. Will do more as time permits. Kevin
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Good practice today.
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Yup, that was pretty fun.Your Mowchine handles a lot better since the steering seems broken in better. I just got out my axle yesterday and you remember telling me about the 5 degree back angle? Well this thing is welded at 5 degrees already. You just weld it in straight and ta-dah! at 5 degrees automatically. I don't think the lowering job is going to be that difficult. So I hope to have her all up and ready for the track this weekend. -Seth
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Mine is more like 10 degrees, but 5 will be alot better than 0.
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Hey Seth, before you weld in that axle, think about this.
It's reletive. If you have a level frame, the 5 degrees will be 5 degrees.
If the frame is higher in the back, then you will lose some of that.
If your chassis is built with a rake, (which I think it will be) you should increase the front axle angle accordingly.
Mine is 11 degrees +/- minus a little side to side.
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Mine is 10 degrees positive. 0-1/8" toe. Kevin
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That's some good thoughts. I hadn't thought of that. On 2nd look, the axle I have is actually around 10 degrees. But I'll see how much rake there is going to be. I installed new brackets in the rear last night. Lowered the rear about 2.50" The front will be anywhere from 3-4" lower. Anyhow, my stock one was really unsafe and this new axle will keep me from killing myself. I'm also starting to see that this modification will mean that I have to change everything. The deck, shifter linkage, and steering axle shaft will all have to be modified. What a mess! I have lots to do in order to hammer it out by next race.
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I am planning to have a craftsman about 4-5 inches of the ground with a peerless 600 in it. I hope i can pull it off.
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Hey Greg, what size tires do you have on your mower? Also what is your ride hieght? I'm have some problems with my ride hieght. Thanks Kevin
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13/6.50/6"s and 18/9.50/8"s. It's 6 1/2" behind the front axle.
What do you think of Georges mower deck? If I did that, I could drop the frame another 2" and still have the deck above 2 1/2".
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Would you have to butcher the fenders alot? I would prefer you didn't. as far as the deck, don't let fear hold you back. Kevin
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I was wondering about that too. If we're talking about being able to cut the deck and mount the ends under the foot rests, that would make mounting mine easier. I am lowering mine as we speak and being able to do it like George did would make a big difference.
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I have a spare set of fenders. I think I have a plan. Widening is not allowed. Fenders may be trimmed to within no more than 1/2" of tire and must maintain at least 1" of vertical material to allow for structural rigidity.
My frame height is most likely staying where it is for now. My plan is to weld some original wheel sections to my already cut fenders. I think this is the best way to get tire clearance and maintain correct appearances.
sectioning ;)
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Hey Kevin, is your MTD gonna be together by the 30th?
I'll be bringing pretty much the same setup with a couple improvements like better brakes, fenders, mower deck, and maybe exhaust. My engine is getting wore out already, but it still runs ok. It only has about 500 laps on it. I think I'm going to shim the oil pressure relief spring. Still gets out of the corner good.
Maybe primer for this month. I don't want to paint it again till I'm done with the bodywork.
Wait till you see Seth's mowchine. It looks like he lowered it about half a mile.
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Hey guys, no I won't have my new mowchine ready for the 30th. I am how ever working on it as fast as I can. So much to make and do. Darned old hay season and a day job getting in way.
I did get the race hay trailer rolling yesterday, straw stacked on it today.
I need to give the Pappy Wishbone's Race report. I was hoping that Mowfast would chime in about it. We would be very competitive with them. I was told next year is open to all. So I cant wait to go show my and our stuff in another venue. We have time to learn our adjustments, and gain confidence in our mowers and ourselves.
Hey Greg, were do you get tires? I need a pair of 16x7.50x8 for the back of my mower. Kevin
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I got mine from tiresunlimited.com. Decent price, very prompt shipping.
Are you sure you want small tires and lots of power on a short track?
In Seths video, you can see Corey just smokin em out of the corners with his small tires and big engine.
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Hey Kevin,
You might also want to check out nebraskatire.com . I got mine there and they shipped them to me in 4 days. The kicker is FREE shipping. I am about 90% done with mine.Pretty much had to rebuild the whole mower because everything had to be chopped and modified.That and the steering is always a 2-3 day ordeal of tinkering. I need to figure out what to do with the mower deck because it won't fit where it did before and needs to be attached permanently. That and the last thing is exhaust.
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Hi Kevin. It was sure nice to meet you and your son at the redneck championships in Red Bluff last weekend. Things didn't turn out as promised but, hope we gave everyone a good show. We had a lot of fun and broke a few things. We are busy getting the mowers ready for the next race here at home. Rick
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I enjoyed the show, and the whole redneck games. I had a good time talking to you guys. I'm glad to see that we run very similar type mowers. I'm looking forward to next years event and racing with you guys.
How's the dude who got run over? Is he really sore? Give him a heads up from me. I hope it won't slow him down any. See ya mowfast.
Kevin
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Last that I heard he is OK, just a possable broken rib and really sore, thank God. That could have really been bad!
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Redneck games? Where do I sign up?
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Hey Guys,
If any of you are interested, I registered us to be in the Alameda 4th of July parade.If you aren't familiar with it, it is one of the longest parades for a small city in the country. Over 3 miles long and 2-3 hours of everything from old cars, horses, BBQers, marching bands, dancers, Motorcycles, and pretty much anyone and everyone who wants to be in it- whether it makes sense or not. We even had a few people in MOTORIZED furniture running around. The town also has live cajun music, the US coast guard band, and so on. A lot of the town is shut down so you can walk around it all day. The streets are lined with chairs.
Anyhow, I know some of you all live far out,so I told her that it could be anywhere from just me to 15 of us in it, which was fine. If you do come, let me know. I will send you directions to my house and we can unload and get them to the start. We're supposed to be in line by 8:30, no later than 9:30. We can also have a "support" vehicle just in case someone breaks down.
if you're interested, let me know.
Look here for more info and maps:
http://alamedaparade.com/
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Hey guys, are you ready to rumble? I got around to fixing my junk today, between farming and the kids stuff. That darned ol' day job is way to time consuming this time of year. I will be up at the Rodeo grounds at about 9:00 on Saturday. See you there, Kevin
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I'll be there. I don't know about greg though. :(
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Well heres some pictures of the race yesterday
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Here'sssssss the video!
http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z4/pvmowerracing/?action=view¤t=race2.flv
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I'm betting them pics are not thumbnailed...which is why I'm still sitting here waiting for them to load....:noplease:
Guess I'll just have to come back later to check them out
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Well they weren't thumbnailed and then I thumbnailed them, and now they ain't thumnailed again! I'll fix it again!!
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Sorry about that squidd.
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Hey Kevin, Corey is building a nice 1/8 (approx) oval track down here. Right next to the old one.
My boss talked to the guy who owns the property. I think we can hook up a race on this track.
Here's pics:
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It's kinda rough, but it will be smooth in another week or so. We're also clearing out the grass around the track. Don't want any fires.
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Hey guys, is the track done yet? Also Rex has invited everyone to his house after the next race for the three B's. Beer, BBQ, And B.S. Might be kind of a pot luck thing.
I also hear that the organizers of the Covelo Blackberry Festival Liked the race on Memorial day, and possibly want us to race there. More info as I get it. Kevin
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Things are looking good. Now..If I could just stop chasing broken buses all over the western United States. Just got back from Vegas last night.
Man,thats a long round trip. Before that it was Kingman,AZ.
This job is cutting into my mower time.
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I had the pleasure of riding around on that track. The pics don't do it justice. It is a nice BIG track where you can really unwind. Corey had just started on it so my ride was a bit rough. Still kind of sore. Vegas huh? Please don't tell me you had to drive all the freakin' way. That's a 10 hour trip if you go 80MPH all the way. I've done it 3 times myself. Not fun because there's a whole lot of NOTHING all the way there. I feel for ya there.
As far as next race.... not sure if I can make it. Brother's moving back to TN that weekend so I need to help him out and stuff. However, I do think it'd be cool to maybe get together and try out that track Corey is making once the stuff with the owner is settled and all.
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hello NOR CAL guys im new to this mower racing. i live in Cottonwood Ca. its 15 miles north of red bluff where the redneck games were held. i am building a 84 craftsman with a 14hp brigss and a foote transaxle. well anyways i was just wanting to say hi and introduce myself.. im rodney..
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Howdy. Greg from Santa Rosa here. I have a Craftsman with a 15 horse Kohler and a 700. It's a work in progress, but it's usually race worthy.
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Hey there, I'm Seth, another guy with another Craftsman: A 1985 Craftsman with a 5 speed Foote and 14 HP opposed Twin. Anyhow, check out our site: http://wwwpvmowerracing.com and it has all our race dates and stuff. We lots of races left.
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Good day I'm Kevin. Glad to see we are getting some more people here in Ca. with mowers. If you need any info or help let us know. Kevin
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Well it's nice to meet you guys. The wife and I plan on bringing the kids down for the weekend race on the 28th. I need to get some good hands on ideas on what exactly I need to do to make a racer. I take it the race will be held in Potter Valley? It's hard for me to find time to work on the mower because i am a Millwright and work alot hours. I am building a set of headers for it right now and working on the streering. That looks like the hard part. Well I will be posting some pics once i figure that out..Talk at ya later guys. Rodney
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Hey Fast Craftsman, I just sent you a P.M. It would be great to see pictures of your mower. I also have a hard time finding time for my mower, new or old. Darn day job.
Yes the race is in Potter Valley. Starts at noon, hot laps at 11:00. If you need directions, I will be happy to give them to you. Let me know, Kevin
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Yeah Kevin I need to get some pics up...I just sent you a p.m also. I have been that way before so I shouldn't get lost..How do I know what kind of Foote tranny i have? It's a 5 speed. and does it matter what kind of pulleys I run?
One more question before I go to bed the wife wants to know how long the races last and if there is a after race get together.
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You could leave the valley as early as 3:00 or as late as?
As far as the pulley's we run Mod-x. I have a 6" on the front and 3.5" on the back. Run in 3rd or 4th gear, Taching 5200 rpm's max. 18" rear tires. Kevin
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Well guys I figured out how to thumbnail pics but i cant personalize my profile with a pic.. Oh well all in due time I guess..
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The MTD is going to be the next build....I'm sure the wife will be happy about that...guess I will have to buy a push mower...HAHAHAHA...Don't worry thats not what i'm running for exhaust. Just using Kytec to mock it up....I had to build a muffler for it 'cause the neighors are kinda grumpy about noise..more pics to come soon....Rodney
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Take the cover off of the transaxle. Clean the nasty grease out. Weld the spiders to lock it up, weld it very throughly. Get some thick gear oil, put about 1 1/2 cups in it. Seal the cover with sealer and bolt it back together. It will seep some oil out, so if you can, put a fill plug in it.
Next you need to make the brakes better. I got the caliper and master cylinder off a motorcycle, made my own disc. I also put it on the left rear axle. It stays much cleaner this way.
You can search for more info on this type of stuff, Lot's of info here, so you don't have to go far to find it. Kevin
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Thanks for the help ...I will do that this week...don't think I will have it ready for the race, but hopefully soon..i was going to order some front spindles this week...sounds like I need to get 5/8...so it is ok to run 2 cylinders in the super stock class as well as the mod-x?
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Yes, Kevin
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Super Stock is a single cylinder. Mod -x is the apposed twin class
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George, If we had more than 10 mowers show in each class, I would make separate classes. but until that happens, they run together. The numbers are growing so it will happen. We are a small but growing chapter.
I have been doing all I can to get publicity. We attend all the parades we can. I have a sign on the side of the road. I get ads in all the free calenders, and some others as well. I have all the 4-H kids talking, as well as some adults. We raffled off a mower at the are rodeo. I even get the kids mowers in the Fair.
I also spoke to an organizer of the Blackberry Festival in Covelo about a race there on the 18th of August. And another in September possibly.
I am waiting to here back from them. I told them to be quick about saying yes, so we have time to prepare and schedule. I would like more people see us race to develop more interest.
So I am doing the best I can at this time, Kevin
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Kevin Now I understand!!! You doing a fine job. No complaints here fmy friend. We combine classes here if we have a low turn out also.
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I'll say we have a pretty good time out there with such a mix of mowers. It makes racing pretty interesting. Our last race was actually pretty tight.
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ARMA rules are similar to USLMRA rules with a few exceptions.
Mod-x is very comparable to CP-single cylinder OHV up to 20 horse, and all opposed twins.
Super Stock is for governed singles up to 465cc.
Super Sportsman is for V-twins, except ARMA allows up to 25 horse instead of 20.
http://www.golawnmowerracing.com/ARMARULEBOOK-2007.doc
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Well sr71mopar. I guess I will build for the mod-x class sounds like you get to have more power. Having a hard time finding a motel to stay at on the coast.. Something must be going on the weekend of the race...
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Hey guys, if you want ot hang out for some of the 3-B's( beverage, BBQ, and B.S.) bring some chips or a dessert and drinks. We'll have good time talking trash, giving each other a hard time. Let me know, Kevin
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welllllll... I won't be there this weekend. My brother is leaving and I have to help him. So you all might want to film and take pictures, then send me the video/pictures. Zip it up or something. Then I can update the site. Bummer I can't race this time around, but future modifications for my mowchine are on the way.Have fun Ya'll!!
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Hey Greg and Corey, did you forget about the race today?
Kevin
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I couldn't make it. Sorry
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Hey CA guys, how did the race go on Saturday? I was up in Bridgeport, CA all weekend on a trip with my brother. Anyhow, if anyone took pics, send them to me and I can update the site. later-Seth
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Hey Kevin my wife and I would like to thankyou guys again for your hospitality it was greatly appreciated to go somewhere not knowing anybody and then leaving knowing you met some great people.
After those few laps the mowchine build will be going into overdrive to have it ready for next month.
I changed my mind on the opposed, I am going to rebuild it for my wife she wants to run it in a stock class I guess...I might have tear into the MTD if she is serious.
I am going to run a single ohv what do you think I should go for? The I/C or the intek with the avs and at what HP.
Other members opinons are welcome
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Your engine options depend on what you can afford/find. I like the option of finding, cause I'm going to take ti apart anyways. I do like the 28 cu. in. engine for the parts availability and info you can find right here.
We were glad you and the wife showed up. I need more people involved here . Glad you had a good time.
Hey Ca. guys, I had a talk with the dude up in Covelo. He says there trying to get it together for the 18th of August. I hope we can go kick ther butts.
Kevin
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Hey guys, I have spoken with the folks up in Covelo and at this point they are going to race. Steve ( the organizer ) has asked me to run the race. I will be making a list of the many things that need to happen and passing that along. If they can make the list happen, it will be a go. Race is scheduled for the 18th of August.
If they show some interest, I told them I would have a build clinic this winter.
So if you want to go let me know. I would like to have some idea who would like to go. Kevin
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So, Do I have ant takers for a race in Covelo? Seth? Greg? Corey? I will be running the race to get them started. 100 foot straights. 22 foot wide track. Smooth and fast I'm told. Graded and watered. Haul it and have some fun kicking Covelo. Easy pickin's. Practice at 11:00, Racing at Noon. Kevin
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Chini 30ft wide track makes a better track. Safer too.
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Hey Kevin,
If the race in Covelo is on August 18th, I will be in L.A. Arg! Otherwise, I am making plans for out next race. Let me know how things go there. -Seth
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Well guys, the race in Covelo was alot of fun. Their track is longer and wider so passing is great. We need to make a bigger track. There were about 50-60 spectators and 9 mowers. We had 7 mod-x mowers and 2 super stock mowers. Racing was good in the heat race, good evenly matched racing. In the main I had to start in the back, but going into turn 1 they just gave me a big hole to drive right through. That was it, no contest from there. I left them bad. My adjustments were spot on. 20 laps later I was on the same straight away as 2nd and 3rd. Everyone had a great time, even the powder puff ladies had a good time.
So the crowd from Covelo is going to have another race in October. They should have some of thier mowers ready by then. Kevin
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Chini, glad to hear the race went good for ya. I can't believe it has almost been a month since the last race.
I wish I was further along on my build, but work seems to keep interupting me. I think I got a good lead on a 18.5 briggs my friend told me about today (FREE!!!) I am going to look at it tomorrow.
If you remember I was telling you about a mower junkyard in Red Bluff. I went and checked it out....not so much a junkyard, but the guy is willing to deal. He has quite a few briggs for rebuild and i found one peerless on a broken down mower. It is the round style tranny. The guy wants like 50$ for the mower.
Well gotta run hope to have the mowchine running for the weekend.
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Hey Fast Craftsman, I am hoping to see this next weekend. Rex And Cindy are expecting you as well.
I hope we can make your racing debut a good one. If you need any help,just holler. My phone is 707-743-2359. Kevin
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Chini, yeah I am hoping my build falls into place. If I get it done I think it will be in the stock class. We wont be able to stay over, cause my niece's 1st b-day is on sunday... We were really hoping to stay..
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Hey Seth, Steve from the Covelo race might e-mail you about getting the video of Saturday on the web sight.
Will you be here on Saturday? What about Greg, Corey,and Paul?
Kevin
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Sorry i didn't have a ride.
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I do plan on being there on Saturday even though I didn't have time to "upgrade" my mower. I will be bringing the camera. If anyone filmed the last race, the can bring a tape or CD with the video and I can update last month's race and this one too. See you Saturday-Seth
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Hey guys things are looking up for me I scored another mower today!!! It is a Power Kraft with a 18.5 opp. twin. I am going to pick it up Sunday. So far the only down side I see is that it has a hydrostat..I am pretty sure I can trade it for a peerless. Also I ran into an old Friend and come to find out he works at a mower shop in town. He was telling me his boss used to build Jr. drag engines. I talked to the boss and he said he would help me build a runner provided I come up with the MOO-LA. Maybe I can get them to sponsor me?
I'm hoping the word will get out better if the customers see what is going in the shop. I have been telling everyone I know and for them to spread the word.
Well I guess the family I will just be spectators cause the mowchine isn't going to be ready. See ya Saturday!!!!
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OK Guys, I got a call from the local race track promoter today. He is setting up a budget for a monster truck show and wants to include us. So I'm going to hash out the details and see if I can get us some money to race. I need to know if you will be available to race on the 26th and 27th of October. It's a Friday and Saturday evening show, so you will probaly want to stay. I can provide some place for some and Rex can take some.
He told me that he is hearing alot about us, so the word is getting out there. However I still think this would be a great exposure for us. I also would like to have some on display and someone to speak with people interested in our sport.
Please let me know if you can make it as soon as possible!
Hey Greg are you and Corey still alive? Paul? Thanks guys, Kevin
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Hey Kevin,
If we're talking Friday evening, how late would that be? It is a 3 hour drive for me up there, so I don't know if I could make it in time for Friday. Could do it Saturday. I have a hot-rod show coming up in Oct, so I'll double-check the dates and see if I can do it. I'll let you know-Seth
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Times would be 6:00 - 7:00, I would think. This is a paying race/exhibition.
I spoke with Bobby Paul today. He would like to see 12 mowers, 2 heats of 6 each, and then a main event. We are going to bypass the local promoter if we can.
Any questions please let me know asap, Kevin
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Where in Califronia would this be I'm from Arizona and am up that way about then?
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Hi Kevin,
Well there's no way I can make it up there by 6:00. I get off work at 5:00 and as mentioned,it is 3 hours minimum for me up there. But I could probably do the Saturday one. If we have to have 12, then that means we'd pretty much all have to be there. Guess we'd better get a head count. You can count me in because the Hot-Rod show here is on the 13th of Oct. I actually tried to get all our racing mowers in it too... but they weren't all that keen on it.
And for you Baker, we have the events up near Ukiah in a town called Potter Valley. Here's the site: http://www.pvmowerracing.com . It has a map and everything.-Seth
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I'm talking about the Monster Truck Show?
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So is he. In Ukiah is where the monster truck show is. Will be held at the Fair Grounds. If your going to be in the area we would always like to meet a fellow mower racer , Baker30
Kevin
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I'll be there. My little Kohler is showing it's age, but is still strong as it ever was. I like to call it my, "opposed twin killer".
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So are you guy's ready for a good racing weekend? Can I expect you? Let me know,will ya. I need to talk to you guy's about a possible race later in the year. Kevin
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Hey Kevin,
I plan on being there Saturday. Made some changes so the mower is a wee bit faster. see you there.
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Hey guys, The monster truck show was canceled. The promoter here thinks bad weather will stop it. But I e-mailed monster jam to see if we can get a date in April at the Santa Rosa show. I am still working on a Covelo Race as well. Our last race might be a mud race, but i still want to have it here. Kevin
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Thats a bummer, but I'm definately up for some mud racing.
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Yes, we should definitely do some crazy mud race or something. That will be the last race in the " Green Dixie" before her engine, front axle, steering, and other goodies get transferred to the little mower I got a few weeks ago. It'd be good to send the ole' girl off in style.
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Hey Kevin, is the last race for sure, rain or shine?
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Yes, we are racing. Supposed to be clear weather. Can't wait. Will be testing the new ride tomorrow with Gary. Will be wanting to see how it compares to everyone elses. Gary has his new one running as well. Craftsman chassis/ opposed twin. Have to see how it goes as well. see you then, Kevin
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For this race I'll have the same junk I brought last time, but this winter I'll be working on an old Dynamark that I've grown attached to. See you on Saturday.
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I've been lurking for a bit and finely signed up here. I live in Sac. and was looking for some races to check out. I have been to Potter Valleys site and see you only have the one race left on your schedule. I was hoping to make it but prior commitments and all. What class mowers are most of you guys running?
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Hey Wally,
We're running FX machines. That said, we're kind of a loose conglomeration of machines ranging from rear transaxle setups to a few live-axle machines. I think most of us are going to be using live axle mowers this upcoming season. We are racing under the ARMA association.
Anyhow, yup, we do have one more race for this year. But we'll be doing stuff next year as well. So make sure and keep up-to-date on this forum. -Seth
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Potter Valley Lawnmower Racing for the 2007 season was established around ARMA Mod-X, with some freedom. If you have a well built mower, come on up. Safety is the foremost concern.
For the 2008 season, it's looking like a combo of Mod-X, Pro-X, and Super Sportsman. Again there may be some freedom of build, but all ARMA safety rules will be enforced.
Come on up and check it out. I was thinking about a build clinic in Santa Rosa around the first of the year.
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There may be some winter racing, depending on weather and interest. Possibly Thanksgiving race and New Years to start. Maybe more. If you pay attention here you will be informed.
So I have to redo the steering on my mower, Just to worn. See you guys Saturday, Kevin
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Thanks.
I wanted to build a racer but wasn't sure what class. I would hate to build one and not pass tech. I would be up for the build clinic as well. I would also like to see some of your rides up close. As for some winter racing I don't think I'll have one built in time but I like to come and check it out. Right now I am shopping for parts and possibilities. Do you have a kids class as well? My daughter may want to give it a go as well.
Thx
Wallyzmown
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Yep, there is a stock class for the kids. There is also a powder puff race for the ladies. Chini is the local chapter president.
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Now I'll probibly have to build two!!
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Hey ya'll,
I had an interesting week. I put my old mower up for sale on craigslist and got about 20 calls on it. It did sell, but of the many who called, there were many local people who were interested in perhaps getting into the sport. I gave them this and our web site. So we might very well have a number of new people joining in the Spring.
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Hey Seth an idea for you is to look on Craig's list for a go kart rolling chassis. Could be a cheaper way to get axle, brakes and possibly steering. Maybe other parts as well, Kevin
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In a couple of weeks I am going to start a dynamark. I have a lot of parts besides a 700.
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you have to keep that "Monte Carlo" sticker on the side. That's freakin' awesome!-Seth
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Hey Seth, are you coming up this weekend? Greg and Corey?
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Naw, I have to be at the shop this weekend. Hey, maybe in the next week or few you can get some of the guys to come down here for a test and tune type deal. I still like the idea of a build clinic ...with some seat time for anyone that shows up.
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Hey Kevin,
I think I'm going to stick around here this weekend. Anyhow, yes, we should all get together at some point and have a test N tune and perhaps start organizing for next year's events and meets. I think we're going to have a lot more people this year. Have fun on Saturday!-Seth
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So have you guys thought of when to have a build clinic? I am interested so I can make plans to help out.
Seth, how is your little mower coming? Pictures yet? Parts yet? Just curious how it's coming. Kevin
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Hey Kevin,
We're thinking about having something in two months or so. That way if we have any new members, they can come out and see some of the completed and semi-completed machines. As far as mine goes, I have so far picked up 16 feet of raw 1x1", 1/8" steel, front and rear axles, hubs, a RAGB, and an engine. But I still need to order a ARC flywheel, brakes, sprockets,wheels, tires, and clutch. Unfortunately the clutch and ARC flywheel are pricey items, so I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and order them.
I wanted to get most of the parts together before putting it together. It'll go faster once I see everything all at once and can configure the frame to accommodate it all.-Seth
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Late January, early February sounds about right. That gives us a month to figure a good plan, and another month to promote it.
I could use a few pointers on how to actually conduct a build clinic.
Opinions welcome.
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Just a thought, Have people talk about what they have tried that doesn't work, as well as what does work.
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Hey Mowfast1, have you heard of any mower racing in Blue Lake just out of Eureka? Some where I thought I had. Just Curious, Kevin
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Corey is making good progress on the Monte Carlo Dynamark.
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That's good to hear. Tell him to put up some pics! Anyhow, mine still sits in pieces. I wanted to get all the parts and configurations lines up before I started. I got a 12.5 HP Briggs IC engine off Ebay and have picked out a clutch and am about to order wheels and tires from Turk Bros. I'm still waiting on the parts I ordered from Acme. Once all the stuff gets here, I'll start the build.
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heres some pics cal guys
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Hey Guys, Happy Holidays. How's the plans for the build clinic coming? Do you need any help? Parts ? Pieces? Did Corey find an engine? Are you still Alive? Kevin
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Shooting for early Feb. I have alot of ideas.
I need to give you a call soon.
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Looking good so far!!!
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Hey Seth, remember this day? How are you coming along? I'm not building a new mower for the new season, but I'm improving a few things on my old one. I'm gonna run that 26" Kohler till it blows...might take a few years.
Can't promise I'll make all the races, but I'll be there for some of them.
When are you coming up to do some work and show some progress?
Kevin, that 14.5 is just what Crocco needed. We're stuffing half of it into a 31" block.
Let you know how it works out.
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Hey Greg,
I sure do! That was back when we were just trying to figure out what we were doing. That said, your mower was just about perfect from the get-go. I'm almost to a point where I have gotten enough done on the new build to bring her over. I wanted to get close to having the axles installed. I've never done center steering, so we'll that'll be interesting. Anyhow, let me know if you're going to be around Saturday. I think we don't have anything planned so I could wrap the mower up in plastic and bring it over. ( supposed to rain all weekend)
Adios!-Seth
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Yeah, I'll be there. As far as the perfect mower, well not sure about that. You can tell by looking at the back of the seat that I forgot the wheelie bars.
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Hey Guys, It's time to make the schedule again. If you have any input let me know now. I'm going to tell all the fair managers about us to try for some exposure. Maybe try to get a race at the fairgrounds in Ukiah. Also Willits.
I did try to get a hold of the Monster Jam people for a show in April in Santa Rosa, but no luck. That would have been a fun race.
Possible play day in April. Kevin
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My only real input is Saturdays are better than Sundays.
Paul's dad held the beer permits at the Sonoma County Fair for along time, and he said he would go down there and talk to someone. Never know.
Still can't get my boss to agree to an all out race at our track, but I'm working on it...But we could get away with a few guys doing some test and tune.
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Hello Guys Im the new kid on the block I live in the monterey bay area and looking for some racing Im working on my old lt4ooo should have it ready soon. I am a SEARS home tech I come to your home and fix your tractors , Im a newbe to this racing thing. Im used to fix it after they broke it not modify it, Hope to learn some things here maybe do some racing since i cant find anything in california,
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Wecome Dirt, there is a hole lot of info here to look through. We will also help in any way we can.
Our races are generaly the third Saturday of each month here in Potter Valley. We have a web site, it's pvmowerracing.com. Theres a map of our location there. Again Welcome, Kevin
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I need to stop working on my customers tractors and work on mine Im calling in sick :D thanks for the info only bad thing is i work on saturdays :mad:
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Hey Mowinmachine, E-mail me your phone # please. I have some questions for you. Thanks, Kevin
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Well,
We all had a great time last Saturday up in Potter Valley CA at our first event. This was more of a play date to get all of the mowers in shape for race season. We had quite a few new people show up and there were also a few new builds. The new track we have is a lot smoother than last year's too. Here's to a great season! Thanks to Kevin for making it possible.
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Yalls mowers have come along way in a year, great job everyone.
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Hey, you guys ever seen such a beautiful water truck in your life? 1953 Peterbuilt( we think ). Gots a 5+4, and most of the brakes work. Bungee cord for a door latch. Broken air ride seat, Drives like a dream. Ha Ha, Kevin
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Actually, that water truck runs a smooth as butter when it gets started. It sure saved us last week because after about an hour, you couldn't see anything from all the dust!
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Hey Guys, The big weekend is coming. Next Sunday is our paying race, Bring your a-game. $100 bucks plus all entries.
I'm trying to make the track bigger also. More speed ya know!
See ya there, Kevin
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Well yesterday was a great time. All of the racers were happy the way things sorted out in the main events.We also had a good purse to pay out for the Mod-x class. We had a good crowd of spectaters. Got more people interested in our growing club. I have more mowers to give to them. So I hope to get them going soon.
In one week myself and some of the other guys will be starting on our new track. It will have 30' wide lanes, 100' straights, and 60' wide infield. I would like to make it kidney shaped also. That worked great as a passing place yesterday. Should be time to gear up for the challenge. Kevin
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That was the funnest I've had in awhile. I think we had close to 20 mowers and a couple of new guys. More fun when there's mower people out on the track!
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Well we started to work the new track today. Will have pictures as soon as i figure out my Photobucket Password. 100' straights 60' radius on the corners. nice dogleg in the front strightaway. Gotta keep you on your toes with that there right turn! It won't take much to make it bigger if need be, either. Kevin
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Hey Seth, Gary ripped that engine for you today. It's a 12hp i/c. It's ready for you when you get here.Let me know, Kevin
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Hey Kevin,
Tell Gary I said a big THANK YOU. I was thinking of coming out there after work on Friday and bolting it in. I'll call you later in the week. Thanks again!-Seth
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I think it's time for all the new guys here in California to chime in. How many of you are out there? I have been contacted buy a couple of interested parties for a payin race or two. How many So. Cal guys are on this forum? Interested in a north vs south deal. Kevin
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go Nor-Cal!!
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I talked to the Fair manager today about a couple of exhibition races . She is going to let me know sooner that later, I was told. I hoping for maxinum exposure out of this deal.
Kevin
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Hi all. I just figured it was time to check in and see how it's going with the Potter Valley crew.
I recently picked up a Murrey/Scotts with a good Kohler twin (CV18), but I'm using it to mow grass right now. I also found a complete Craftsman II like my old green one for $50. If I can scrounge up a 700 I might give it another shot, maybe in time for next year. I'm ready for some fun.
Greg
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Hey Greg! How are ya? If you want to get back into it, we'd be glad to have you back. We have a fantastic big track that Kevin and Gary graded down. We race every 2 weeks now and we have a lot of regulars now. Talk to you later-Seth
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I think it's time for all the new guys here in California to chime in. How many of you are out there? I have been contacted buy a couple of interested parties for a payin race or two. How many So. Cal guys are on this forum? Interested in a north vs south deal. Kevin
How about the central valley (Modesto area)? Supposed to be some being built in Sacramento too. I've about got 1 ready & plan to come run with you guys. What classes are most running? I've got a 8 hp flathead Briggs or a 15 hp OHV (both stock with governors at this point). Any jr classes for my grandson (yes, I am that old :D ) Any1 running governors or is it mostly "run what ya brung"? Should I bring my 40 hp Vanguard? :woo: :banhim: I should be ready by July. Let me know if your schedule changes. Bob
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Bob, mowers are being built in Sacrmento, and a USLMRA Affiliated Club will be on board soon. Meanwhile, further siouth in Anza, California the wild and crazy "Bud Elmow" is slinging sod!
The Mowtivated Hillbillies (2.27.09)
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P.O. Box 391402
Anza, CA 92539
Shop: 951-763-4314
Cell: 951-581-4409
2BUDZRACING@GMAIL.COM
www.2budzracing.com
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Thanks Mrmowitall. Sacramento's only about an hour and a half away for me anyway. Looks like they have a decent sized group. Maybe we'll get ahold of them and have some sort of Cali get together.
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Bob, mowers are being built in Sacrmento, and a USLMRA Affiliated Club will be on board soon.
Hi Bruce,
I've talked to Nick in Sacto but haven't heard from any1 else. I'm not hearing much from up there. No1 has attended the last 2 meetings. Bob
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Red Bluff is having a 4th of July race, so if you got a mower bring it for the race. I am interested to meet anyone here in No. California that wants to race. We are having a race on Saturday at noon also if any needs to look at a mower, see a race, or ask any questions.
Kevin
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Hey Mowinmachine, give me a call about Red Bluff. I spoke with Bob about the classes.
Kevin 707-272-0453
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Bob, mowers are being built in Sacrmento, and a USLMRA Affiliated Club will be on board soon.
Bruce, you have any other contacts besides Nick in Sacto? He isn't answering my emails & I'd like to get something going. Bob
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Hey guys, there's a night race 2hrs no. of here on Saturday. Rio Dell is the town. I am going to attend to try and spread the word here on the west coast. I hope I can get some more interest here so we can have at least one really big race this year.
Kevin
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There is also a race in Southern California on August 1st in Ramona at the fair.
Races start at 5pm.
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I'm in northern California. Just starting out but i have a friend who wants to get going to. i'm very close to the start of my build.
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I'm in northern California. Just starting out but i have a friend who wants to get going to. i'm very close to the start of my build.
Where in northern Ca?
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Hey guys, I have been approached by the local TV station about putting our races on. I will be contacting our film editers about this. I'm not sure who is going to produce them, but I hope it can be worked out. Will be sweet exposure.
Kevin
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Really? That's pretty cool! Anyhow, no promises, but I will probably have our site redesigned either by the end of today or sometime next week.
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Hey guys, will you be around for the race this Saturday? Trying to get a head count for the potluck. Kevin
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Hey guys, will you be around for the race this Saturday? Trying to get a head count for the potluck. Kevin
Sorry Kevin but I'm not going to be ready. Been real busy lately with a trip to Kansas & then to L.A. Just haven't had time to finish everything up. But I will be ready for sure for the 1st race next season. Have several more guys wanting to race too. Bob
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Where'd you go in Kansas??
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I'll be there. Looks like it might rain. Guess we might be going muddin'.
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Where'd you go in Kansas??
Lawrence. I'm originally from there & most of my family are still there. Also lived in Topeka for about 10 years before moving to Ca.
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Thats just up the road a piece from us, Got a niece at KU.
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Ca. guys, Im hosting a build clinic on Jan. 23@ my house. Starts at 12:00. Address is 9701 East Rd. Potter Valley Ca. 95469 Will try to answer any questions you have. Will have my stuff apart for you to you at, as well as some of the guys stuff. Will have 10' schedules ready to. If there are any other races around, would like to know. If we work together we should put on good shows everywhere.
Any questions let me know. 707-272-0453m 707-743-2359h
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we have our track in so cal and travel all over down here for different events and races.in just one year we have down tv promos,fairs, parades, etc. and are now involved in stadium racing events.our website is still being renewed "mowtivated hillbillys". we adhere to USLMRA'S format and insur. we welcome anyone to join our a/c it's a blast!! 2budzracing@gmail.com.....
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i am in sacto ca try to get club started call if you would like help me get it going 916 798 3944
george aka troutchaser
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Build Clinic was on Saturday. I think I provided a lot for the guys to digest. Was a success in my book. Got some new interest from some guys. Hope they get on with it. I think they'ed have fun with it. Kevin
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Good job out there Kevin.
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Heyall. Just checking in. Picked up a CH20 side shaft Kohler twin if anyone can use it. Didn't cost me anything.
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Good to hear you still alive down there, Greg.
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I want to invite all you racers to come out to sunny California on July 17th for the West Coast Nationals ARMA points race.
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where at exactly?
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In Potter Valley. Northern California, Wine Country. For more info, go to pvmowerracing.com or potter valley mowers on Facebook
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I should be able to make this race. Is there room for camping or motorhomes at the track?
I want to invite all you racers to come out to sunny California on July 17th for the West Coast Nationals ARMA points race.
You should post this race in the ARMA race section.