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« on: July 12, 2006, 09:56:32 pm »
hey goerge or some one that know alot about gearboxes..

id liek to know how strong they are and what i should to to make them last longer...

heres the #'s of the 1st one
3628-P1
Patent# 3.812.735
Re.32.125

the other one is
Modle# 718
6182   1090

i paid 50$ for 3 of them and they both work great i havent had those 2 in my racer yet still running my first one for prolly about 5 races and running at the near by track every friday  and sum wheelies and donuts ( all that fun stuff!!!)

the first one listed is bran new never used and the second one was just layin up in the guys shed and im not sure what it has been used for...
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2006, 12:20:52 am »
What are they trans axles or transmissions, the 718 will pull up as a 5 speed 700 series transmission, The first one havn't a clue  need a model number not patent no.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2006, 12:34:30 am »
thx man i believe he wants to kno if it has the steel gears in it and we'll try to find model numbers on the other one
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2006, 06:47:19 am »
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3628-P1

That 3261-p1 is probably a "part" number for the case ...kinda the way most Foote trannys are stamped...


You should be able to back track it from there...
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2006, 07:15:32 am »
The 718 is a standard 5 speed 700 tranny and it has no steel gears but some tlc and pinion and bevel gear replced will be a good one.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2006, 09:21:02 am »
ok and the other one is a 3 speed with reverse that about all i know i havent opend it up yet so...
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2006, 11:46:54 am »
ok i got more #'s of the tag on the one tray/gearbox

700 005
Peerless
1157  1253

thats whats on the tag on the front of the gearbox
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2006, 08:51:36 pm »
Is that on the first one or the second one??

Have to agree with Squidd the 3628 P1 sounds like a Foote part number, likewise the 3 speed with reverse makes me believe it should look something like the one pictured here  - http://www.heymow.com/viewtopic.php?p=3942#3942

Kinda resembles the 700 Peerless as far as the shape of the case.

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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2006, 09:41:15 pm »
its the first one


and no it doesent it looks liek a normal 5 speed.. excepts it a 3 speed ( well i went threw the gears n i only feel 3 )
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2006, 09:44:37 pm »
Can you get us a picture of it?? That may help.

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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2006, 09:50:44 am »
ok i got the numbers off the one tranny and on the tag it says

700-005
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2006, 11:00:59 am »
It would appear to be a Peerless model 700... see http://www.odref.com/peerless/  for parts breakdown.

Likewise there is a thread on race prepping it here at - http://www.heymow.com/viewtopic.php?t=192

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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2006, 09:21:56 pm »
i know what it is!!!!.......

but i wanna know if its got steel gears and all that stuff...

its BRAND NEW never ever been used should i still open it up and put gearlube in it??

im thinkin abut leaving the reverse in there casue a buddy said that the chain somewhat holds the 2 shafts togehter and helps prevent wear??


id liek to know info about the gear box it does NOT need to be rebuilt i just want to know what it has in it ( steel gears?) and if i should open it up and gearlube it
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2006, 11:19:06 pm »
Well... if you read that thread up there to about this point you'll have part numbers for the steel gears, and the other link there will give you part numbers for the gears in your tranny in comparison. Which is kinda why I directed you to those two links, 'cause I was busy at the time I replied and George, Squidd and most of the other guys are off racing this weekend. And, according to the numbers found on those two links, they aren't steel!!

But don't stop reading there, because a couple posts beyond that one George tells you that the schematics will list the input as steel and if input is steel the bevel gear is steel as well. Which that schematic doesn't tell you the input is steel either, so again I'm assuming they probably aren't. And, then he tells you what to do when you get the steel gears and everything appears to be the wrong size, should you order them and that happen to be the case.

Right after which he tells you to take the reverse gears and chain out and toss them, to prevent the chain breaking and wrapping around the shaft, and blowing the case on your new tranny apart... (unless you're running a class where tranny alterations are not allowed such as USLMRA - IMOW)

And, right after that he tells you that you should replace the grease with gear lube, (which elsewhere around here he has stated using a mixture of gear lube and 00 Lawn Mower Grease). Cause and reason being the gear lube or gear lube and 00 mix is thinner and lubricates better and it creates less drag than the factory grease. Running straight grease in there you aren't going to get enough lubrication and you'll have more drag inside the tranny.

Be sure to read the first post on that topic however, as George points out not to use degreasers or solvents on the brass bushings, and he also specifies where you want to apply your gasket goop to prevent all the gear lube from leaking out.

So to answer your questions more directly...
  • NOPE, you ain't got steel Gears.
  • Yep you probably want to clean the grease out and change it to gear lube with a little 00 grease to reduce drag and make it tacky enough to stick to all the gears good as George has suggested elsewhere. And...
  • Yes you do want to remove the reverse chain and maybe even the gears, unless you just absolutely want to buy another tranny, or aren't allowed to do so under your association or class rules.

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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2006, 03:40:54 pm »
yup were allowed to remove reverse ( in teh rules it MUST eb a shiftable transmition!!!)

ok sounds good i think im gunna rebuild my other ones to see if i can get atleast one good one before i pput in the bran new one:)
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