Andrew I don';t want to disapoint you But Murray is in no way part of nor ever has been part of MTD nor is MTD part of Murray. Murray manufacturing is or was thier own company. They are only 45 minutes from where I live. Or used to be, they went out of Business, Briggs and Stratton bought them out and closed the doors. I worked for an MTD dealer for 6 years so I am very familiar with that line also. They too are their own seperate company but have been buying many others up such as troy bilt. The two were never toegether at anytime.