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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2008, 01:42:52 PM »
OK, How's this... I think you oughta take some 2"x2"x1/4" wall tubing and put some X-braces under the seat because I know there is gonna be a lot of swayin & sideforces on the seat! I seen the picture of you in that TUTU!!!  Ha Ha Ha. 
Oh... by the way, I put a double spring on the intake last night. I'll let you know how it works. Thanks, Jim
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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2008, 01:54:37 PM »
Don't  :lol: but, I use a 3/4" impact swivel for a knuckel.  I figureed it can take the kinda pressure the gun puts on it, then it should stand up to steering shaft.

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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2008, 02:03:21 PM »
Carroll (bossman) had a knuckle here I think will work, he told me take it home and see so we will find out tonight if I need anything else.


Oh and Jim you implying I am fat!!!!!
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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2008, 02:07:35 PM »
NOOOOOO! Not me, Never!!!
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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2008, 09:15:05 PM »
It sounded to me like he was saying you have time to dance while driving....but only someon spending alot of time behind you would know that.......
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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2008, 09:20:06 PM »
Thats OK I am Any how made a bit more progress over the week. Thios will be it for a few days. As you can see the dash is done Steering is installed and goes thru its original holes at both ends... But it now has a nice rake  at the top that put the wheel very comfortably in a posistion more like a car.... Here I am checking the feel and angle...



This gives you an overall view of the steering setup. I used a front wheel hub at the frame, a go kart column bearing at top of lower shaft then the knuckle, the used an ec moun t and spherical bearing on top shaft under dash and made the mount using one of the linkage rods from the old parts....



This gives you an up close view of the steering overall.



I had to slide the axle in and see what it would look like with the tires setup I will use at the November event and the trip to cananda to race ole Ryan.... These are QRC (burris Tires) 12x9x6 on 9.5 rims Nothing but tire back there.. LOVE it. I found these from a karter, 3 of the above tires and 4 12x8x6 Burris grooved tires all in just as good of shape 7 tires overall 75.00. Pretty sweet deal. Find me some fronts now and I'll be set. May use a set of the 12x8x6. Not sure yet. For class legal racing it'll have turf ,asters all the way around.

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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2008, 01:57:37 AM »
  If I recall George, at the wilson race you said you wasn't going to any races up north and here you go taking a road trip to Canada!!!  :lol:
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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2008, 04:33:00 AM »
  I really like how the engine location is sunk into the chassis. Every little bit helps getting the weight closer to the ground. I also noticed that the engine is offset a bit the RIGHT...is that going to hurt you for left side weight?  It may not be enough to make a difference.
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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2008, 07:16:16 AM »
That U-joint in the column makes it a lot nicer to drive. I did that on my Bolens. I used a 3/4" rod for the column & a U-joint off a Honda ATV driveshaft. I welded a 5" long piece of 1-1/2" exhaust pipe with some gussets through the original hole in the frame. I just had to enlarge it a little. 1-3/8" OD wheel bearings fit real nice inside the exhaust pipe. I used a flanged bearing top and bottom of the 5" pipe to support the lower section of the steering column, with the U-joint right above. That way I didn't need an extra bearing in the middle of the upper section of column. The lower section is straight up & down through the frame, which makes the steering arm underneath go straight front & back when you are turning the wheel. It works real well.



Her is a pic from underneath. I don't have one from the top.
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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2008, 08:25:30 AM »
You got a fantastic deal on those tires. They usually cost $50 APIECE! Anyhow, those tires make a gigantic difference out on the track. I have the same size and used them on the front and the back. They do make the ride a heck of a lot more bouncy though.
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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2008, 08:47:22 AM »
  If I recall George, at the wilson race you said you wasn't going to any races up north and here you go taking a road trip to Canada!!!  :lol:

What I said was I had no plans to at the time.....
  I really like how the engine location is sunk into the chassis. Every little bit helps getting the weight closer to the ground. I also noticed that the engine is offset a bit the RIGHT...is that going to hurt you for left side weight?  It may not be enough to make a difference.

I will actually move it to the left to center it up or even offset a bit in the frame to the left. Rules only say it has to maintain original crankshaft orientation. Meaning go thru the same hole, doesn't say where in that hole....
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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2008, 09:05:37 AM »
I built an old White last year that had an identical frame and rear fenders. I really like those rear fenders, you can get the seat down really low. I moved the motor over to the left about an inch or inch and a half, so the crank was centered in the frame. I had to take a 3lb hammer to the floor pan to lower the left side a little and then plated the bottom with 1/8" steel for all 4 mounting bolts. The fellow I gave it to races with us and it seems to be working fine.
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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2008, 09:15:26 AM »
You got a fantastic deal on those tires. They usually cost $50 APIECE! Anyhow, those tires make a gigantic difference out on the track. I have the same size and used them on the front and the back. They do make the ride a heck of a lot more bouncy though.

You run enough air the bounce will quit
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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2008, 08:00:15 PM »
You run enough air the bounce will quit


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Re: NEW ARMA Legal Super Sportsman
« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2008, 08:28:33 PM »
Well  as a rolling chassis minus Sprockets, chain, brakes, pedals, motor and exhaust oh and pulley's it weighs 123lbs  Pretty dern light....I am very confident it will be aroun d 250 to 260lbs when done.
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