thanks everyone for the nice remarks. been doing more to it tonight making the deck halves and some fender brackets its a rolling chassis and i know i need to do a little more work to it. i hoping by the weekend i can start tearing it down for paint. and Mowdak, thank you for the link, i'm am as computer illiterate as they come and by the time i figured out what i did do my head hurt so bad i had to quit but i will try making clickable thumbnails next time. thanks Lloyd Mixen