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New guy with 40cu oppy wants to upgrade
« on: May 17, 2019, 07:42:42 pm »
New guy here, i have a 12.5hp horizontal opposed twin, i tore it down to fix something else and wanted to get more power and torque out of it while i have it out.  I'm not a racer really, but the mower it's normally in has always seemed underpowered. 

I'm trying to find out what to do to it while i have it apart.  It's a full pressure lubed engine, so i think parts are a little more hard to come by.   I do have access to a full machine shop and want recommendations on what i can do to this thing while its apart. 

Any ideas?  I'm not opposed to mods, but really would prefer not to spend a fortune on it.

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Re: New guy with 40cu oppy wants to upgrade
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2019, 11:37:32 pm »
you could try advancing the timing, and put a k and filter and velocity stack on it. Also, better exhaust... Less dramatic bends. If that doesn't seem like enough, you could try mild porting on the block.
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Re: New guy with 40cu oppy wants to upgrade
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2019, 06:52:08 am »
i was thinking more along the lines of stroker crank/rods, but i don't know what to get.  Are pressure lube cranks rare?  My rods are sketchy, so i need to get new rods anyway.

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Re: New guy with 40cu oppy wants to upgrade
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2019, 12:43:19 pm »
Put a 42 crank and rods in it,or better yet 46 crank and rods..!!
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Re: New guy with 40cu oppy wants to upgrade
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2019, 02:41:02 pm »
How do i find out what part number to look for?  I have full pressure lube and would want to keep that.

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Re: New guy with 40cu oppy wants to upgrade
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2019, 06:36:05 pm »
Saw a post about using vanguard rods, would that work?  I think they are all pressure lube.

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Re: New guy with 40cu oppy wants to upgrade
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2019, 11:50:33 am »
Look up rods for a 42477.
You cant use vanguard rods their shorter by a lot and crank journal and wrist pin is a lot smaller
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Re: New guy with 40cu oppy wants to upgrade
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2019, 08:13:12 pm »
Look up rods for a 42477.
You cant use vanguard rods their shorter by a lot and crank journal and wrist pin is a lot smaller

Oh, i read a thread where vanguard single rods were really close just too wide journals, needed machined narrower.  and they were all pressure lube.

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Re: New guy with 40cu oppy wants to upgrade
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2019, 07:42:44 am »
Ok, i found and ordered a set of rods for a 42cu motor with oil drillings.

Now i'm looking for a crankshaft that will fit my block.  I THINK 690784 is a pressure lube crank,
the parts lookup said it was for a 42A777 engine.  Would that crank fit a horizontal oppy 40cu block?

I know there were several variations of crank snouts, keyways, etc.

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Re: New guy with 40cu oppy wants to upgrade
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2019, 10:30:19 am »
40ci and 42ci block is the same,i think you may need a pressure lube 42 horizontal crank..
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Re: New guy with 40cu oppy wants to upgrade
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2019, 01:05:32 pm »
Yes, i'm looking for one now.  In event i can't find one reasonable, i'll drill the oil passages on a non-lubed crank.


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Re: New guy with 40cu oppy wants to upgrade
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2019, 08:01:57 pm »
Anybody got a part number for a pressure lube 42cu crank?  I tried 690636, but it wasn't right.