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Offline mark @ EC

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Rumor with Bumper Rules
« on: December 08, 2015, 04:56:24 PM »
We have heard a rumor that USLMRA and other organizations are outlawing the use of front bumpers.

We have a strong opinion on this issue. We fully understand and support not having a front bumper in most classes.

EXCEPT! The Supermod/FXS/FXT classes. These race machines are built to accelerate very hard and are very fast and are very heavy.
These classes need a front bumper from the perspective of safety. These machines lack the adaqute stopping power needed to keep from running over, under or through another competitor.

We understand and support the argument that front bumpers leads to bump racing but in the case of these classes front bumpers should be manditory. These machines are too fast and dangerous not to have front bumpers on every mower in these classes: Supermod Twin/Single and FXS/FXT. Race directors, flagmen and other officals doing their jobs should be able to run a proper race without taking away this safety precaution.

We say this with over 50 years in the racing business and years of experience organizing races and running a track

If you agree let your race promotor/director and the organizations know now before the rules change.


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Re: Rumor with Bumper Rules
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2015, 06:07:40 PM »
Might be better to ban FXS and FXT classes. Too fast, very little safety equipment.

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Re: Rumor with Bumper Rules
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2015, 08:35:52 PM »
Make it mandatory to have front and rear brakes on all fxt and fxs machines. I've seen and heard lots of people running just rear. I don't run this class so just ignore me. Faster you go , going to need really good brakes.
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Re: Rumor with Bumper Rules
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2015, 09:36:53 PM »
Make it mandatory to have front and rear brakes on all fxt and fxs machines. I've seen and heard lots of people running just rear. I don't run this class so just ignore me. Faster you go , going to need really good brakes.


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Re: Rumor with Bumper Rules
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2015, 10:58:16 PM »
I personally think front brakes should be MANDATORY in the Super Mod and FXS/T classes. Your gonna tell me you can afford to build a bullet but cannot afford to stop it. Track workers doing their job will stop a lot of the rough driving. They cannot see ea and every contact on the track. BUT when they do if they do something about it right then, decisively it would stop a lot of it.
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Re: Rumor with Bumper Rules
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2015, 05:57:25 AM »
ARMA'S SUPER MOD CLASSES ARE THE ONLY CLASS THAT CAN RUN A FRONT BUMPER. I BELIEVE MOST DO.
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Re: Rumor with Bumper Rules
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2015, 06:42:05 AM »
Make everyone run an expensive plastic grille.
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Re: Rumor with Bumper Rules
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2015, 08:24:10 AM »
SOMA will stay with the bumpers on Super Mod twin & singles.
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Re: Rumor with Bumper Rules
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2015, 09:52:53 AM »
I personally think front brakes should be MANDATORY in the Super Mod and FXS/T classes. Your gonna tell me you can afford to build a bullet but cannot afford to stop it. Track workers doing their job will stop a lot of the rough driving. They cannot see ea and every contact on the track. BUT when they do if they do something about it right then, decisively it would stop a lot of it.
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2015, 11:33:00 AM »
I dont see how a front bumper is a safety feature. its only there to save the hood and for some ''driver'' to move other out of the ways.

i agree front brake should be mandatory on those class. its not for setup its only so you can stop when others spin out in front of you
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Re: Rumor with Bumper Rules
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2015, 11:37:32 AM »
Make everyone run an expensive plastic grille.
AGREED! and front brakes on FXT, FXS!
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Re: Rumor with Bumper Rules
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2015, 02:46:25 PM »
Some people can't win without a front bumper, how is it fair to handicap them by taking it away? 
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Re: Rumor with Bumper Rules
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2015, 09:25:34 PM »
Some people can't win without a front bumper, how is it fair to handicap them by taking it away? 
let them keep the bumper, and tell the flagman to do his/her job, and black flag them for those actions....simple.
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Re: Rumor with Bumper Rules
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2015, 07:12:11 PM »
if you want to make it mandatory front brakes then every class needs to need front brakes considering they ALL slide when you hit the brakes we have guys down in southwest that run front brakes they stop just like the rest of use with rear brakes. Yes front bumper are good for drivers who can only win with smashing & pushing there way to the front it is the flaggers job & track staff to call apon this on track issues & address them w/ the driver as needed. just because there are a few drivers consistently driving with the front bumper doesnt need to ruin it for the rest of the racers. You also have the issue with rear ending someone & the hood smashes & hit the driver in the face causing a safety issue. This topic is Like oils theres not one idea better then the other they all have there pros & cons.

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Re: Rumor with Bumper Rules
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2015, 10:08:47 PM »
FXS and FXT front brakes should be mandatory.  If you can afford the engine you can afford the brakes.   If you don't think you need front brakes your the problem.   

As for bumpers I've been racing for 13 years.   I've only scratched the front of my mower twice.  Once at a poorly lit kart track at night.   Plowed my sp into a GP while racing my way to the front in a class of cp mowers.   The other was at the all american this year.  Started at the back of the pack and was a victim of a pile up on the first lap.  Mower who caused the wreck had no front brakes. 

My front bumper saved my very expensive hood and paint job.   Wasn't my fault.  Was more worried about the guy I hit.  I bent his bumper and possibly broke his brakes.    Got off my rig alerted him to the damage I did and helped him check his brakes.   He was good and raced.  I made a new friend out of the deal.  Think I earned some respect out of it was well. 

Front brakes and experience should be manditory. 
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