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Coming soon from ARC...
« on: November 22, 2012, 07:08:00 AM »
We are almost finished with a flywheel for the v-twin and have started on connecting rods.
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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2012, 07:07:17 PM »
What piston are the vtwin rods going to be used with. The stock pistons are junk. Kerber and super cub already have rods made for pistons they use. Both being JE. Lakota uses JE pistons as well.
I ask because Blossom racing has pistons that will fit that are ultra light and use the .490 wristpin. Not sure what bore sizes are availible but the pistons blossom sells are JE and Wiseco and are a nice option if ARC considers it. Bore sizes from 3.032 to 3.327 will cover most everything.
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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2012, 07:29:20 PM »
Yup. Super Cub, Lakota, AND Kerber already make all the parts for these engines.
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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2012, 08:17:53 AM »
Rumor has it that JE is getting out of the Jr dragster piston business, so Blossom called us and asked us to get behind an effort to supply and stock wiseco alternatives.  It requires a big investment because wiseco wont stock them.  That is all beginning to come together now.
We will likely make rods for the stock pistons and the wisecos.

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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2012, 04:49:08 PM »
I would not waste time and tooling expense for making rods for stock pistons in a command twin. They are junk. Wiseco yes. more so if your using the .490 wrist pin piston. The stock pistons in an open rpm motor are just lit fuses waiting to let go.
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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2012, 05:55:21 PM »
ANYTHING IN THE WORKS FOR A KAWASAKI V TWIN? FLYWHEEL? ECT.
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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2012, 06:09:25 PM »
I would not waste time and tooling expense for making rods for stock pistons in a command twin. They are junk

I second that. I wouldn't mess with making anything for the stock pistons. You would only sell a hand full at most.
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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2012, 07:49:29 PM »
I can tell you a good idea racers will like is having a magnet in the flywheel so you can run stock coils. It will lower the cost of the wheel I believe. Other wise you have to run dual 12volt coils that arent stock appearing for some classes.
ANYTHING IN THE WORKS FOR A KAWASAKI V TWIN? FLYWHEEL? ECT.

I would make parts for these engines before the commands unless the prices are going to be far less then the puller guys that already make the command parts.
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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2012, 09:14:56 PM »
There are stock replacement flywheels that use the stock coils or you can use the Briggs coils.
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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2012, 09:21:22 PM »
Midwest make those Drew? I havent seen them I guess. All I have seen is the aluminum wheels that have to use the crank trigger parts.
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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2012, 09:53:32 PM »
Yup. They made them 3 years ago and still make them. Adjustable timing. Can use Briggs coils with a shim.
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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 01:50:21 AM »
Yup. They made them 3 years ago and still make them. Adjustable timing. Can use Briggs coils with a shim.

Midwest makes an aluminum flywheel that uses the stock Kohler coils only, and the stock Kohler coils aren't too great. The Briggs coils aren't even close to working with it. The Briggs coils are bigger, will hit the intake if you put them in the stock location, and are a different bolt pattern. You would have to make the flywheel diameter smaller and use coil brackets, as well as use a different magnet, which is what ARC is doing. It will be a great option to guys that don't want to run electronic ignition, but want a hotter than stock ignition.
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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 05:53:27 PM »
The midwest flywheel with the stock magnet will only work with kohler coils.The polarity in the magnets are different than the briggs flywheels. Yes you can get a briggs coil to fit the kohler. But the kohler magnets pull push pull with the polaritys, as where the briggs coils push pull push. confused?? i used a magnet to try one from the other. i had a set of briggs coils mounted on my vtwin, but didn't have any spark because the polaritys was different. all i know is it didn't work lol.   with a little coil bracket and a set of briggs type magnets with briggs coils you would have a good setup. just a thought but that would be the setup i would mass prodouce if i would sell them.
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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2012, 06:59:20 PM »
What will be sweet will be use the same outer flywheel as the intek so all I have to do is buy a new hub if I ever decide to switch over
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Re: Coming soon from ARC...
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2012, 08:36:40 AM »
The flywheel is going into final testing mode tomorrow.  It is made with a 6611 flywheel body, so if you already have a 6611 type flywheel, you will be able to convert that flywheel by purchasing the correct hub, coil brackets, and ring gear/standoffs.

This flywheel is designed to use the Briggs Vanguard/Model 28 coil.

All I know about the engine it is designed for is that everyone calls it a Kohler V-twin or Command V-twin.  Is there a more specific name?  Also, is there a family or range of HP/cc ratings that can all use this flywheel?
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