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Horizontal Command Single?
« on: January 25, 2013, 10:29:01 PM »
Just found a Cub with one of these in it, are they worth anything?  I've never seen a single before
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2013, 10:38:09 PM »
I had one on an air compressor and had nothing but trouble with it. It always had starting issues. Had to work on it before I could the compressor. Finally got tired of working on it so I replaced it with a Honda. Not saying they are bad engines but the particular one I had was a lemon. No matter what make or model they all have lemons from time to time. If I had a  choice between the kohler and a Honda, I would go with the Honda hands down.
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2013, 10:45:02 PM »
Horizontal kohler commands singles are worth keeping in my condition. I bet its 13hp engine. Im getting one my self with 2130 cubcadet. Thats what i was planning on to run in fxs. If its a 13hp engine it has 1 inch crank with 398cc and 26ci.
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 10:47:49 PM »
Horizontal kohler commands singles are worth keeping in my condition. I bet its 13hp engine. Im getting one my self with 2130 cubcadet. Thats what i was planning on to run in fxs. If its a 13hp engine it has 1 inch crank with 398cc and 26ci.
Not all of the horizontal singles have a 1 inch crank, the particular one I had was 1 1/8" crank. Mine was also a 13 hp engine.
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2013, 12:27:08 AM »
Hmmmm if thats case ill mill mine to 1inch
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2013, 09:39:00 AM »
The engine that you have tom is prolly 26 cubes. It can be taken out to 32 cubes.
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2013, 09:47:53 AM »
Question where would u find a 32ci piston cause if thats case i may do that.
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2013, 09:51:01 AM »
Midwest carries the piston and crank combinations to make the cubic inch you want out of one of these.
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2013, 09:59:17 AM »
Basically kohler has the stock parts. Midwest is the only place that has aftermarket parts for these motors.
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2013, 10:09:33 AM »
I have ec. billet flywheel with brigs hub and ring gear. Is there a way to get hub for kohler and ring gear?
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2013, 10:14:53 AM »
You'll have to have someone make it. Midwest builds the flywheels using the stock ring gear which is the same between the twins and singles. And it doesn't cost $70 to buy the ring gear from arc. I've got 15 ring gears for a total of $15. I give all mine to Midwest so you guys don't have that fee added into the kohler flywheels when you buy them.
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2013, 10:31:47 AM »
I saw ARC makes kohler billet flywheel but is it for single and can you get a hub?
So basicly you have to make cone shape hub to fit it
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2013, 10:33:40 AM »
its only for the twin, but you can get some one to make a hub....... :thumbsup:
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2013, 11:00:28 AM »
Question is who would do it?
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Re: Horizontal Command Single?
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2013, 11:32:50 AM »
Personally I have had an arc flywheel and a Midwest flywheel, I would but the Midwest again if I were to build a different motor and they had one available for something besides a Kohler. They look extremely nice, have a steel ring gear(no more ripped off aluminum teeth and $70+to replace it.)  if you ever have any thought of run ing electronic ignition, midwests flywheel is ready for that, just add their bolt on ignition kit. And if you really stop and think about the logic, pay $70 for a ring gear, then pay to have the hub machines to fit a Kohler (if it's big enough, I don't have one here to measure for a briggs). You will have around 150-200 in all that if your a guy who walks into a machine shop off the street with no inside connections. At that rate you could sell your flywheel and put a little bit of money with it (what you would spend at the machine shop and on the ring gear itself) then have the cash to buy the MWSC flywheel and it will bolt right on
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