Topic: 13HP HF Clone yes or no

[Ron Atchison/A.C.E. Race Engines]

But, at some point many prefer to have reliable hp versus peak hp. I know I don't build the most hp, but mine survive.

 I understand that..i would not see a reason for the stroker crank then. A lot of builders want to build as many cubes as possible to more easily make their fair power engines and, that's fine if that't what they want. When a customer pays the big money for big power that is what they should get..they will from me. I will tell you the big power engines will break the offset small journal crankshafts when cranking up the horsepower dial!!!!!!

-Ron.

[Rooster]

I can build almost 12 hp out of them, and never break a sweat, let alone a crank!

[amr5080]

Nice thing about a genuine Honda is they have a forged crank

[Matt 105 SP]

I can build almost 12 hp out of them, and never break a sweat, let alone a crank!

I can get 13 hp out of one and not do a thing to it.

[George Herrin]

Nice thing about a genuine Honda is they have a forged crank

if you get the right clones so do they!!!

[Ron Atchison/A.C.E. Race Engines]

I can build almost 12 hp out of them, and never break a sweat, let alone a crank!

i bet u can !!!!  lol...

[jordanjrj01]

Are these honda gx390/420 clone engines legal to use in the USLMRA FXS class?

[THawley08]

Yeah

[bountyhunter]

Isn't the a honda crank still the best stock crank as far as streinth ,I meen honda,s kinda got a rep as building good engines that meet higher quality/ standards! I meen most of time if you have a honda on say a splitter it'll bring more $ than say a clone,briggs or other! They didn't get that repatation by building junk I'm not saying that clones are junk I've heard the ppl building don't have same standards!

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[Rooster]

Clones are built in China.....you be the judge of the quality.

[Jim Knutson]

And the honda is made in japan? I bet if  you found the right source of info, you would find out wherever any engine is made, the parts more than likely were sourced from china.

[FlatheadPuller]

I wouldnt be afraid of the clone. You can beat them and beat them hard. Look at the karting world. A friend runs an open 390 clone at vestaburg kart speedway. Beats it to death and ots never failed. Mike clements has said a mild build can net 40hp. All day.

[bountyhunter]

After readin up for last couple yr on popler karting forum there's good clones and bad clones but if you buy honda u get better stuff again not saying there ain't good clones

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[FlatheadPuller]

Ferris I dont think there are any bad ones. If your building it for racing the bad parts are thrown away. If your leaning on one hard your gonna have a good rod and flywheel in it. If you want it to live and be reliable and get a season out of one your not gonna have it set on kill so I see now problem breaking a crankshaft. Your gonna put good valves in it. Good springs. What else could go wrong.

[Ron Atchison/A.C.E. Race Engines]

If you run the stock rod journal diameter you wont break any cranks. The clone cranks are pretty tough..i have broke the cylinders off a couple blocks but never broke a crank. I run around 40 degrees of timing and been over 8000rpm on my alcohol engines.