Michigan is always a crap shoot with weather. I have seen snow early in october and in late april. If you get past october 15 maybe, between the 1st and the 15th, better, end of september better yet! Dave does have the right size track but will he let clubs or other people he DOSEN'T know run and work his track? He doesn't know me from adam up the road, but I was an officer in a motocross club for 10 years helping put on 4 event's a year. We averaged 500 riders a day, but we also had 25 - 40 club members helping. We had to plan dates in dec or jan for that year, can we do that with US, ARMA, and WOO? The end of september in mich is really nice, we also need a rain date. I didn't see alot of spectors, how about advertising the event outside of or regular people and places. We have to get the word out and outside of other lawnmower racers. We can't keep doing the same thing and expecting differant results! Anyone that watches cars or motorcycles race will enjoy the v-twin shootout! The show went very smooth and moved right along, that keeps people's attention! One thing that is for sure it's all going to be a matter of timing! [just my 2-cents]