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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #90 on: November 25, 2006, 09:06:54 pm »
you can custom fabricate yourself a front axle and spindles, or you can buy them, g-team sales everything you need to set up a mower, they have a fully ajustible front axle and a standard front axle.

http://www.g-team.us/FAST.htm

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Many thanks to you and George for your help.  I am not "racing" mowers right now, but who knows!  (I am a drag racer, really wish there were drag races for these!).  I did a little checking and it seems most rules require the cutter deck to be on the mower, with the blades removed.  I thought I might try a race or two, if they were close enough to home. I know I would not have a competative mower, only because mine is being built for other reasons, not to meet rules.  But since I do not have a cutter deck, and have no plans to put one on, I guess that is out.  One of my clients has a 1/4 mile oval track at his home where he and his friends race go carts.  I could always go there to have some fun, so that is cool.
Anyway, I will be contacting the link above to see about buying some spindles.  For the price hardly pays for my shop time to make them. 
Thanks again, your help is greatly appreciated.   Hot rodders are the greatest, be they hot rodders with cars, or hot rodders with mowers!
Tom

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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #91 on: November 25, 2006, 09:17:48 pm »


Here you see the steering column in place inside the dash area.



Here is the pitman arm on the end of the shaft The next photo will show you the depth from where it comes thru the frame to the bottom of the frame.



With a striaght edge across the bottom of the frame this give you an idea as to the exact location I have it in. Just for you to know I make my pivot points on the spindle from center of king pin to rod bolt hole 4.5" then on the steering column from center of column to rod bolt hole anywhere from 2 to 2.5" I went 2.5 initially on this one but moved it in a 1/4". Just a bit more detail for you all to digest.
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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #92 on: November 25, 2006, 10:10:35 pm »


Here you can see how I gauge where to cut the sfaht off at. I leave it long enough it serves as a stop at full right turn. I don't have a stop for left turn I have never went over and The tire hits the grill before it does so it serves as a stop. I don't use that much left turn. Now the right in counter steering yea I sometimes hit full lock.



here is an overall view of my steering set up with the E.C. Axle. I have been using this setup for going on 5 years now. I love it 1/4 maybe a tad more is all you will ever turn the wheel in a race.



here is a better overall view of the steering and front end with tires on it.
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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #93 on: November 25, 2006, 10:42:03 pm »
one word :D AWESOME :D
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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #94 on: November 25, 2006, 10:49:31 pm »
Amazing work George. I keep waiting for more and more updates

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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #95 on: November 25, 2006, 10:55:17 pm »
one word :D AWESOME :D

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That thing is looking great man!
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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #96 on: November 25, 2006, 11:07:34 pm »


Now I am mounting the front grill mounts. I clamp a straight edge to the frame to be sure I am straight with the top of the axle and frame and then use a straight edge to make sure I am not at and off left or right.



See here I am checking to make sure its square to the axle. The hood mount holes are 11.5 inches center to center Frame is 13 wide so I went 3/4 of an inch from the side of frame and drew a line on the axle beam to know where to place the mounts.



Here you see both mount welded on and notice How I have drilled a hole stuck a bolt in and welded the head to the tube. Makes it easyier to remove the hood and grill simply spin the nut off top side don't need two wrenches to do it.
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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #97 on: November 25, 2006, 11:12:31 pm »
You know I never realized what short stubby thumbs Superman had! :rofl:

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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #98 on: November 25, 2006, 11:19:56 pm »


here you can see how it sit right over the bolts To secure it a couple fender washers and flannge nuts and done.



Here is the first view of the rolling chassis with the body work mounted. Using the hood and grill from the 04 chassis was my back up this year.



Here is another view of it. Tomorrow it will come out of the shop for the first time for a better photo and I need to clean up a bit before continuing on with it. Still have to fix the battery mount location  and some tabs welded in dash area for upper grill support location, brakes motor and wiring then body work to paint it.
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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #99 on: November 25, 2006, 11:20:55 pm »
You know I never realized what short stubby thumbs Superman had! :rofl:

That's because he hasn't had his spinich yet! (WAIT...Thats Popeye's thing)..

He hasn't got angry and turned green? (no...That's the HULK)

Gosh..your right ...he just has stubby thumbs!
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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #100 on: November 25, 2006, 11:39:11 pm »
hahaha!!!!!!!
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« Reply #101 on: November 26, 2006, 12:26:51 am »
I see how you do the direct steering.  Very nice.  Not sure if I have room for that with the plow and hydraulics under the mower, may have to "re-engineer" a few things!  I notice a rather large primary drive pulley.  What is your final drive ratio?  Don't most rules limit you to 8:1???
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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #102 on: November 26, 2006, 10:03:03 am »
No the 8 to 1 rule is for IMOW or Super Stock only. I run a prepared class and may run any ratio I like. My final ratio is close to 6.5 to 1.  If your machine is gonna have all the hydraulics and nowblower stuff on I would put direct steer on it. You wouldn't be able to turn your steering simply to heavy. If you plan on a speed run I reccomend finding a smaller lighter chassis to hot rod.
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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #103 on: November 26, 2006, 10:37:04 am »
Can't argue with you George, you just know too much.  Just an FYI, This mower is planned for primairly snow plowing, BUT, my personallity will just not allow me to not screw with it!  No plans on "racing" it.  Will not go full out with the plow on, (enough chance of injury with a big heavy BLADE in the front that is able to chop, dice and slice body parts in a wreck!  I DO have a client who has a 1/4 mile oval dirt track in his back yard, only about 45 minutes from my house.  I suppose some fun running there would not be out of the question.  The plow comes off with 2 cinch pins, and that also removes the hydralics for the power angle.  Then a 1/2 13 bolt from behind the axle, along with a 3/8 24 nut from infront of the axle, and the lift hydralics and mechanism come off, all that is left are 2 trailer light plugs that go to the two pumps.  Right now the mower goes 10 to 15 MPH, (estimated guesstimate).   just put the cutter blade pulley on as the primary drive pulley.  As it works out, it is the largest pulley that will work on the motor without cutting anything.  Future gear changes will be made on the secondary drive pulley.  I am also going to look at putting disc brakes on it.  Right now, I don't really have room between the wheels and the chassis, so I was thinking about putting the brake on the drive pulley on top of the trans axle.  Do you think I should look more closely at extending the axles to put the disc brakes at the wheels instead? 
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Re: George's NEW BUILD for 07
« Reply #104 on: November 26, 2006, 05:41:07 pm »
Ax;e brakes are always best. Something inside that transaxle breaks you may have none if using the pulley as a disk.
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