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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2009, 07:12:28 pm »
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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2009, 07:27:18 pm »
Cheers guys....

Any other tips for while I'm inside the motor? without buying billet rods etc just anything that can improve its life and maybe fine a little power :D

Will pull the motor tomorrow. its just past midnight here... good night and thanks again for your help.

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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2009, 07:30:52 pm »
Light port and polish.. i would rebuild the whole thing while you are at it... remove head clean all the carbon clean carbon out of the ports mabey replace rings. lap the valves set lash and toruqe everything to spec and mabey deck and lap the head to the block...
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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2009, 05:46:58 am »
What do you mean by Deck and lap the head to the block? You mean have the block machined?

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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2009, 06:47:32 am »
Deck means cut top of block to ensure its flat , you mill the head to ensure its flat you cannot lap the two together, not sure what he meant there. You lap valves to ensure a good seal.
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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2009, 07:52:03 am »
The rod is the weak link, I'd at least install a new stock rod.
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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2009, 11:12:11 am »
Ok here is what i ment by lapping the head and block.
This is quoted from a guy i know on another forum heres the link.
http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5773&highlight=lapping+head

I did this ONCE to a 2.5 hp engine my freind had because he didnt have a gasket and he had a stuck valve.

"don't work with anything 4 cycle anymore (for many reasons), but here's what I do.
I eliminate head gasket completely and lap head and block using 320 grit Clover Silicon Carbide Grease grinding compound.

Only needs to be lapped until both surfaces (complete circumferences) show a uniform gray color. Minimal amount of material is removed and is controllable. All that is being done here is increasing flatness and has a two fold purpose:

1.) Eliminating the need for a gasket
2.) Creating an absolutely flat surface for which the flange sealant can properly do its job.

Takes about an hour or so for both surfaces and is (in my case) equivalent to milling .040" total or the thickness of original gasket. Reason for lapping is that surfaces are not absolutely flat...hence the need for gasketing. Lapping is not part of the manufacturing process as it is not cost effective (time and labor).
I've done it to all my 2 cycle power plants. Gain is probably in the .5 hp range or more.
A flange sealant must be used, such as Permatex Super "300", in place of gasket and torqued to max factory spec. If surfaces are not lapped, sealants will not hold and will blow through in short order.
Been there, done that.

Hylomar can be substituted for the Super "300".

Clearances should be checked with modeling clay before final re-assembly.
Don't want anything clobbering something else. "
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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2009, 12:43:08 pm »
Thats the POINT it doesn't work with a 4 cycle, so why bring it up and confuse those already confused even more. You will not run a 4 cycle without a head gasket very long. Unless your speaking from experiance its simply guessing or hear say. Not tring to be ugly but its like the blind leading the blind.
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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2009, 01:38:30 pm »
were did you see that it doesnt work with 4 strokes? that confuses me you can do it on both.
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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2009, 01:50:48 pm »
It's bad advice all around to suggest you can run without a head gasket.

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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2009, 01:53:21 pm »
Alright then is a easy way to bump up a little bit of compression... I think ill do this to my oppy and keep the head gaskets incase it dont work...
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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2009, 02:09:58 pm »
"If" you do it and "when" you've done it....Then come back and tell us "IF" it worked and more importantly...for how long...:noplease:
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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2009, 03:03:22 pm »
Alright will do.
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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2009, 05:47:06 pm »
I suggest you test that in a open field where no one is around ;-)

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Re: 10hp 22ci govenor removal advise needed
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2009, 06:14:36 pm »
were did you see that it doesnt work with 4 strokes? that confuses me you can do it on both.

Ok here is what i ment by lapping the head and block.
This is quoted from a guy i know on another forum heres the link.
"don't work with anything 4 cycle
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