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Another kohler starting problem
« on: August 29, 2009, 02:57:04 am »
This is for a grass cutter mower.Engine is a CV491S 17.5 command. Will not start! Pops out the carb and thats it. -Great compression. -has nice spark. -flywheel key is fine. -fuel pump is working. -Fuel solinoid is working.

Put a little gas in the carb and tryed starting it up and poped and had flames in the carb.

Seems like a timing problem, but nothing is out of the ordanary.

Pulled the valve cover off and there was oil in there, is that normal?

Any sugestions???
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Re: Another kohler starting problem
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2009, 12:51:10 pm »
Any one??? :confused:
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Re: Another kohler starting problem
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2009, 02:30:04 pm »
Leakdown test rather than compression test
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Re: Another kohler starting problem
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2009, 07:37:09 pm »
can you explain how to do that?
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Re: Another kohler starting problem
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2009, 07:36:27 am »
you opened the valve cover, did you look to see if the valves were opening and closing properly? that could be your problem.
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Re: Another kohler starting problem
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2009, 08:41:00 pm »
I agree with amcchevy sounds like your valves are out of adjustment but I've also seen spark plugs cause problems similiar to this also.
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Re: Another kohler starting problem
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2009, 09:21:57 pm »
When you take off the valve cover I bet a rocker arm will fall out in pieces. Dont keep trying to start it till you have inspected the valve train. Was just down this road a couple weeks ago
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Re: Another kohler starting problem
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2009, 10:45:18 pm »
Yes, I did check the valves. everything was intact and the valves seemed to open and close just fine. I pulled the head off and I was going to pull the valves off and inspect them closer, Figured I will relap them also since it will be apart.

anything else to check?
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Re: Another kohler starting problem
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2009, 10:50:17 pm »
Eric i was working on one today that would crank over but only backfire out the carb . I did the same as you checked the valves and pushrods I found mine had a sheared flywheel key :confused: Not something you see a lot on a Kohler but it was sheared. I replaced it and reassembled everything and it works fine now.
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Re: Another kohler starting problem
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2009, 12:51:26 am »
Yeah, that was one of my first checks and it was good.
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Re: Another kohler starting problem
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2009, 11:21:25 am »
pulled the valves and found a small piece of carbon on the ex valve seat. Would this give me the problem? waiting for the head gasket to come in so i can try it.
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