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Offline Bobby M

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« on: July 28, 2006, 08:32:27 pm »
how easy is it to get the tires off the rims, and what are the best tools? How easy are they to get back on?

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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2006, 01:56:46 am »
Well this might sound silly but I remove the rim and tire from the axel.

I set the wheel down on my drive way and slowly drive my van onto the tire really close to the bead. this breakes the bead down for me.
Then it is all up to my screw drivers to pop the bead over the rim.

When you go to put the new tire back on use a little dish soap to pop the bead back on.

hope this helps
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2006, 02:15:32 am »
Short of driving the van up on your tires, if you watch E-Bay for Kart supplies, tools, tires, whatever... and keep an eye out on a few of the sellers stores, you can find a bead breaker for them, it isn't anything fancy or elaborate and they usually go pretty reasonable.  

Wouldn't take a whole lot to build one from the looks of them.

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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2006, 04:03:34 am »
A good size vise also works for busting the bead...

Open wide and place tire in so edge of rim hits back jaw, and front jaw hits bead just below rim edge...

Crank and squeeze to break bead loose...

Repeat for other side...

Then take a 3/4" rod about 16" long (or 1 1/2" pipe depending on center hole size) and clamp in "vertically" for center post..

Clamp a vise grip on lower rim bead to keep rim from spinning and slip over center post...

Then, using a "large" flat screwdriver and tire lube (or liquid dish soap) hook, flip and "spin" tire bead over rim edge using post for leverage...

Hook screwdriver thru and repeat on lower bead...

On "Most" tires (with proper lubrication) the lower bead can be "pushed" back on rim by hand, then the upper bead worked back on with the "two screwdriver" method....

Options and upgrades to this method are:

Getting a bottle of "real" tire lube from auto parts store (about $15/gallon)

Getting a pair of motorcycle tire "spoons" (rounded screwdrivers) to protect bead while flipping $12-$18 pr.

Getting a "manual" tire breaker bar...with ball on one end for "rolling" tire off and "hook" on other end for rolling tire on... $30+ up

Getting the "Small engine repair shop" size tire machine Modak mentioned..$59- $120 ... Harbor Freight /e-Bay, etc...
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2006, 04:09:49 am »
The "trick" to getting themto seat on rim when filling with air is:















Aw heck with it...I'm not giving out All my secrets... :twisted:
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2006, 04:19:46 am »
Lets not go there again!  :wink:

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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2006, 04:30:36 am »
Tire machine... Search for - Kart tire bead breaker


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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2006, 04:43:09 am »
OK Fine...It's late, I'm feeling good...what the heck , let the cat outta the bag...


The "trick" is to take the valve stem out of valve... otherwise the little :censored: of air will never "pop" the tire walls out quick enough to seat on a wide rim...

And No...you do not want to use starting fluid and a match... Could end up with a bad Hair day...or worse...

Which reminds me....Why do Beavers have flat Tails...?
>From stamping out forest fires<

Why do Elephants have flat feet?
>From stamping out burning Beavers... :roll:

I gotta go to bed now... :oops:
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2006, 04:49:10 am »
Yeah me too!!

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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2006, 06:59:52 am »
I see they've went up in price, but Harbor Freight http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34552 has a mini-tire changer I've used and recommended for years.  The built in bead breaker does wonders, the tire tool you can throw away and grab some real tire irons, not those blessed screwdrivers, and the changing of tires becomes  a breeze.

I don't know where I got my irons, that was 30 years ago, but I haven't pinched a tube since!!  JC Whitney has some I know, seem them other places as well.

As is so often the case, the proper tool for the job not only makes the job easier, it also makes it faster and of better quality.  I won't say I never improvise, my tool budget isn't unlimited, but would you torgue head bolts with an adjustable wrench??  Then why use non-tire tools on tires when you can have a complete setup for well under $100?   The price of that torque wrench....   LOL

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